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I Propose A Ban On Text Speak

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I am abt2 go mad if i c ne mor text spk.

I propose that any post with text speak is deleted.

If u r like me pls vote 4 the ban.

; 0 ) thnx u

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updated Sep 3, 2009
edited by Stig345
posted by Stig345

17 Answers

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What I am wondering is why these threads get more attention and more responses than actual questions of people needing help...???

updated Sep 3, 2009
posted by NikkiLR
Now, that IS good comment Nikkis, I think we have better things to do than persuing people who simply have no wish to learn. thanks for the comment. - 00494d19, Aug 28, 2009
No Problem... Now back to learning people! :) - NikkiLR, Aug 28, 2009
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I have read the thread carefully. The rules of this forum clearly state that correct spelling is mandatory. I will pay heed to this idea from now on if the post/thread is written by a native. Chat talk is not allowed either. Words like "u", agua, do not exist. This is not a chat room and the poster has the obligation at least to try to write correctly.

Chat talk is only allowed if it is a question about such a text, not as a norm.

I will be attentive to these kind of posts and try to be more serious what applying the rules of this forum is concerned.

FORUM RULES

updated Sep 3, 2009
edited by Nathaniel
posted by 00494d19
That sounds great, Heidita! Chat talk is a mystery to me and I imagine it must be very difficult (and unfair) for our members who are learning English! - --Mariana--, Aug 28, 2009
Thank you Marianne, we take many impopular decissions but this one should be one of them and I hope people will not consider it impopular. I have already warned one member to use correct spelling. Her posts will be deleted if she does not attend to reason - 00494d19, Aug 28, 2009
I agree with you 100% and I think almost all of SpanishDict members would agree with your decision on this subject. - --Mariana--, Aug 28, 2009
just put foru and m together (It wouldn't let me post caps. It thought that I was shouting.) :) - Nathaniel, Aug 28, 2009
Yes! There seem to be an increasing amount of posts who use chat-speak, or just do not present their question clearly at all. Hopefully, this will help clear up the matter. - Nick-Cortina, Aug 28, 2009
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We are quite fortunate that Heidita and Lazarus (and, perhaps, to a lesser extent [or with less frequency] others, are willing to attempt (with only the occasional error) to explain in English questions of grammar/usage. In many cases the explanation involves subtleties that are difficult to explain in one's own language and (doubly) so in a second language.

I, personally, would have no qualms about entering into an argument about English usage (in English) but, when it comes to Spanish (or any other language that I have studied), even for fairly firmly held opinions, I am constantly aware that my experience has been extremely limited when compared to a native speaker and that, even if I've always heard phrase/expression X, Y may also be a possibility.

updated Oct 29, 2011
posted by samdie
Sam, this is not true, you know very well that your Spanish is excellent. You should try, It's all a question of just trying. Thanks anyway for your kind words :) - 00494d19, Aug 29, 2009
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t was my understanding that she was flagged for using "u" instead of "you" (after being warned not to) and refusing to capitalize and use punctuation (again, after Heidita's warning).

I totally agree that the rules of this site should be respected. I am assuming, based on all of the grammatical errors, that the person who's message was deleted was a native Spanish speaker and not a native English speaker (I could be wrong, however). She was writing at length over over several posts (on a different message) and was warned several times to correct certain mistakes in her writing that were easily correctable (she was told, for example, to capitalize "i" and to write "you" instead of "u").

I value this forum that allows us to develop our English/Spanish abilities; however, if you plan to write in your nonnative tongue and expect anyone to correct your sentence structure, grammatical errors etc., then it is probably best to listen and apply those things that someone has told you, especially if they are simple errors that are easily fixable (such as i/I and u/you).

Speaking for myself, I would much prefer that if a native Spanish speaker wants to speak at length on a subject that they would do so in there native language so that, I might be able to benefit from reading there message in the language that I am trying to learn. I know that when I post, I try to make sure that write in English that is as correct as possible (to my best ability). If I write a post in Spanish, I know that it is likely that the number of mistakes are likely to increase in direct proportion to its length, so it would be very presumptuous on my part to expect someone to correct my mistakes on such a long piece of writing. I think that it is probably better to keep longer opinions to your native language, and use shorter posts to practice the language that you are attempting to learn until you become more skilled with that language.

Above all, however, this is an educational website, and everybody that uses it has a responsibility to maintain it as such.

updated Aug 31, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
Thanks , Izan :) - 00494d19, Aug 28, 2009
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That should go for Spanish chat speak too.

updated Aug 29, 2009
posted by BellaMargarita
Of course, that goes for Spanish as well as English. Unless it is a question, this will not be allowed. - 00494d19, Aug 29, 2009
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I wouldn't go as far as deleting it, but if someone can't write properly, or can't be bothered, the least they can do is start by clearly warning that they are not going to use an Standard writing and expression, so no one tries to learn it believing that it is.

Believe it or not, there is also a lot of Slang where I come from, but unless someone asks about it, I refrain myself from using it here. With my friends that's another story...

updated Aug 28, 2009
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
I don't know if I can believe that a purist like you actually uses slang... :) - Nathaniel, Aug 28, 2009
Outside of an academic or learning environment, yes, all the time. - lazarus1907, Aug 28, 2009
I hate to do this but you don't 'refrain yourself' you just refrain from it .. - Stig345, Aug 28, 2009
Why should you, yourself, refrain , Roger? (as in "hate to do this":) I cannot say it categorically, I'd be willing to put a lot of money on a bet that any such kind correction is highly appreciated! - Janice, Aug 28, 2009
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Maybe you should open up a companion site. Call it SpanishChatTalkDict.com.

BTW I was JK. LOL. (Sorry, I'm afraid that that is the limit to my textspeak abilities-I guess I'll just have to wait along with everybody else for the grand opening of the new website) tongue wink

Anyway, until that companion site does open up, I agree that people should respect the rules of this site (which includes no chat talk anywhere on the site)

(I hope that I was not out of line for using those three examples to illustrate my point)

updated Aug 28, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
I like that Idea. - LAtINaPunKROcKerAConFundidA, Aug 28, 2009
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Why did you make disappear what I gave as my opinion?I did not know that was like this here.

Aguacatona, if you insist on using this spelling, your posts will be deleted. We appreaciate your opinion very much, but we must insist on correct spelling.

Please go to your page and read your PMs Please read the forum rules.

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by 00494d19
The only problem I see now is that we are penalizing her for using incorrect grammar, which shouldn't be the case as she is learning English. I think we should correct her grammar, but not flag her for using it incorrectly, as she is a learner, not native - Nick-Cortina, Aug 28, 2009
It was my understanding that she was flagged for using "u" instead of "you" (after being warned not to) and refusing to capitalize and use punctuation (again, after Heidita's warning). - --Mariana--, Aug 28, 2009
If there is a clear native using incorrect grammar/spelling, then I believe we should flag them, since they should know better and be cognizant of the fact that there are those here trying to learn the correct grammar of their native language. - Nick-Cortina, Aug 28, 2009
Oh, well that is true. I did not see that. Sorry for my quick reaction. - Nick-Cortina, Aug 28, 2009
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I fully support a ban on all text and chat speak. It is one thing when you are texting on your phone and have to write quickly, but in a language learning forum, it has no place. As a teacher and a life-long learning of Spanish, it is frustrating to see it when you are expecting high quality and correct information. If I see any posts with text/chat speak in them, I will flag them as it is clearly stated in the forum rules that it is not allowed.

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by Paralee
Thanks a lot for your support, Paralee, I am sure most forers will agree to complying with the rules. - 00494d19, Aug 28, 2009
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to roger....sto is esto

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by aguacatona
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Heidita said:

This is not a chat room and the poster has the obligation at least to try to write correctly.

Exactly.

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by --Mariana--
Thanks for your support, Marianne, I think we will need all we can get, even natives pay no attention at all to spelling. - 00494d19, Aug 28, 2009
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hola roger ktac? creo q echa sto. mejor q aprnda lo q/s correcto

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by aguacatona
Ha, ha! Love it! - LAtINaPunKROcKerAConFundidA, Aug 28, 2009
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Sto ?

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by Stig345
Sto= Esto - LAtINaPunKROcKerAConFundidA, Aug 28, 2009
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Cum on plse vote 4 de ban.

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by Stig345
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abt2 go mad if i c ne mor text spk.

If u r like me pls vote 4 the ban.

; 0 ) thnx u

Maybe I am just challenged at detecting sarcasm, but if you really wanted people to support this proposal, you should try not using "texts-peak"yourself. Its generally advised to avoid using the concept that you are proposing to ban. Just a tip. wink

updated Aug 28, 2009
posted by Nick-Cortina
what is "texts- peak", hehe - Eddy, Aug 28, 2009