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I just read through the rules and now am wondering if there is a way to report bad content. I have only checked out 2 of the Vocabulary page; one is inappropiate, "swear words" and the other, "words to remember" is badly inaccurate. I have only been a member a very short time, but I am loving this site. For that reason, and because I want to refer others to this site, I want it to be as good as possible. Thanks for helping making this my favorite place to hang out on the web.

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updated Nov 23, 2008
posted by Redimida

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Thank you all for your input on this topic. As the "spokesperson" for the site, I can tell you that I have brought this up to the other people in charge and we will be discussing how to deal with it. I have always felt like anyone should be able to create whatever vocabulary list they want for personal use like they do at flashcardexchange.com. But, I have also seen soooo many lists that were inaccurate, inappropriate, and/or misspelled. Maybe there is a way we can just make personal lists just that, personal and private. And if anyone wants to submit a list for publication on the site, then they could write it up and send it to me. I will bring this forward at our next staff meeting and let you know how it goes. But thank you for the concern. We all want this site to be as good as possible, and it takes all of our help and vigilance.

updated Nov 23, 2008
posted by Paralee
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Hi Podenquera, we had this discussion before, please have a look at several opinions on this topic.

[url=http://my.spanishdict.com/forum/topic/show'id=1710195%3ATopic%3A350804]http://my.spanishdict.com/forum/topic/show'id=1710195%3ATopic%3A350804[/url]

updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by 00494d19
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La Podenquera said:

As a swede I am totally chocked over this discussion. Here we would never have this discussion. For me who have daily contacts with people from spain would LOVE a list with juramentos. I meet them daily and have problems understanding them. Many of these words are also used in a positive way to enhance something. I am often called for a xxx wich I can not say here. It is originally a part from the male body but is used to say that someone is extraordinary, cool or something. But if we would forbid them in diccionary how on earth can we then find out their meanings.

They are not forbidden in the dictionary, anyone can look up a swear word if it´s listed, it is their prerogative. What we do not want are other members making lists and shoving them unsolicited in other peoples faces, which is why I deleted this particular list.

updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by Eddy
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The vocabulary lists are a super handy feature (review and practice is much easier than with a good old paper-and-pencil list). I have lists out there which I wouldn't want anyone else using, simply because I entered definitions for words which make them easy for me to remember but might be confusing to others. Quentin's suggestion is a good one.

Heidita said:

Quentin, interesting news. We had no insight on this . Can you point out some lists? As you have already seen them....there might be less time involved if you could just tell us. Interesting. We will contact the person in charge.

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updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by Natasha
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Quentin, interesting news. We had no insight on this . Can you point out some lists? As you have already seen them....there might be less time involved if you could just tell us.
Interesting. We will contact the person in charge.

updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by 00494d19
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I've never seen anything in print to dispel that assumption. I know that when I first started here I created several "dummy" lists just to see how the flashcard player worked. Since they have a MyList category I assumed they were lists for my personal use. I assumed that for a list to be public it would have to be submitted and reviewed before publishing. Now after using dozens of other people's list I know that isn't so. The older lists are full of errors.
My suggestion would be that they do set up some kind of distinction between private and public lists with public lists having some kind of review even if only from fellow users (kind of like Wikopedia). They could also put an expiration date on the lists (which could be renewed if desired). I've been working on lists on pages 60 and above in the vocabulary lists and there are some real trash lists there (for example lists where the Spanish words were placed on the Engish side so that the reader speaks the English word with a Spanish pronunciation. There are many lists with that problem. These need to be deleted. I know the manhours involved is prohibitive so let we users do it. Make the lists editable by anyone or create a place to submit names of lists with problems. I quickly found out that making comments on the lists does nothing to getting them corrected if the creator of the list is no longer using it.

Natasha said:

I think people may have the impression that the Vocabulary Lists are for their individual use, for recording words they want to remember.

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updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by 0074b507
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Hi Redimida, the mentioned word list has been deleted. We are looking into the other one, to correct it.

Thanks again.

updated Nov 22, 2008
posted by 00494d19
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I think people may have the impression that the Vocabulary Lists are for their individual use, for recording words they want to remember. The text-to-voice software is the best available at this time, as Paralee has indicated before, but certainly not perfect.

As far as curse words, be kind enough to let me share this anecdote. One time I was visiting an African-American church when one of the sisters gave her testimony and inadvertently used a "certain" word in telling her story, caught herself, and apologized. The preacher told her, "Don't worry, all words are the same to God." (As a visitor, it was really hard not to start laughing.) While, as a Christian, I certainly believe I ought to honor God with my use of language, the incident has helped me to remember that the associations we assign to words are cultural and they change over time. The words are not "dirty" in and of themselves. (Does anyone need to be reminded of what the King James Version calls a donkey or how it refers to males') I like to know what words are or could be offensive, precisely so that I won't offend anyone.

Just my opinion . . .

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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Really! I've never seen them called that in all my years in Mexico. It was very silly of me to assume that that was a universal thing though. As far as the curse words; I'm not offended by it. I checked them out, curious if they matched what I have heard. But it is certainly not my idea of family friendly. I can see how it could be useful though. Living in Mexico and not knowing them, I wasn't always sure what words I or my kids should be picking up. After all I do live there as a missionary. One of the other gringo missionaries caused quite a stir when he called out from the pulpit (our church is an open air building) to some guys walking by, "Pasen cabrones." Not really a serious swear word, but not normally heard from the pulpit.

James Santiago said:

I don't see what's wrong with teaching curse words. They are part of the language. And this section is clearly marked, so only people interested in seeing those words will enter. And children have no trouble being exposed to such language anyway. So what's the problem'As for perro caliente (which is indeed misspelled as pero caliente at that site) not being a food (as you stated in the comment you posted), you are mistaken. I have seen this word used in Mexico, and grocery stores sell buns for perros calientes.

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updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by Redimida
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Thank you Redimida. I have reported the lists, let's see what the person in charge wishes to do.

In Spain perro caliente would mean: a sex-lusting dog

We use: perrito caliente

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by 00494d19
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Redimida said:

[url=http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3AT]http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3AT[/url]... This one is the one that is inaccurate.

Hahaha! Not only the sentences are read with an extremely strong accent, but they are also wrong. The second one says "¡Qué cono!", written and pronounced as such, meaning "what the cone!" (the mathematical figure). Without the ÿ, it sounds stupid, like "what the triangle!'". With the ÿ is a rather vulgar expression.

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by lazarus1907
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James Santiago said:

I As for perro caliente (which is indeed misspelled as pero caliente at that site) not being a food (as you stated in the comment you posted), you are mistaken. I have seen this word used in Mexico, and grocery stores sell buns for perros calientes.

In Spain we translated hot dog as "perrito caliente", to avoid confusions.

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by lazarus1907
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I don't see what's wrong with teaching curse words. They are part of the language. And this section is clearly marked, so only people interested in seeing those words will enter. And children have no trouble being exposed to such language anyway. So what's the problem?

As for perro caliente (which is indeed misspelled as pero caliente at that site) not being a food (as you stated in the comment you posted), you are mistaken. I have seen this word used in Mexico, and grocery stores sell buns for perros calientes.

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by 00bacfba
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Thank you. Next time I will know where to go. This one is called Spanish curse words and they really are. [url=http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3ATermList%3A296203]http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3ATermList%3A296203[/url] This one is the one that is inaccurate. [url=http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3ATermList%3A261891]http://my.spanishdict.com/vocabulary/vocabulary/show'id=1710195%3ATermList%3A261891[/url] I went to her page and mentioned to her that there were problems hoping that she would change it, but there has been no response. Unfortunately, it seems to be a very popular one. I hate to think that so many people have learned from it.

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by Redimida
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Hi Redimida, thanks for pointing any kind of bad content or incorrect behaviour out to us. please do, as we are trying to keep this forum family directed and "clean". We are doing our best.
Please, report to any of the ambassadors or Administrators. Eddy and myself are two of them. Natasha is often on-line too.

thanks for you help.

Can you please post the two links here?

updated Nov 21, 2008
posted by 00494d19