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This is not an April Fools Day joke.

It is serious.

I had a computer that was using XP that was stolen.

Everything worked perfectly well.

I bought a new one with Vista - installed (no option)

Now much of what I had on the old system does not work anymore -

Including some websites I developed using Frontpage.

Does anyone know if I can install XP again and run it in parallel with Vista - choosing which OS I want to use when I power up?

I H A T E Vista.

Any suggestions would be most gratefully received.

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updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by ian-hill
1 extra vote for hating vista. :) - pesta, Apr 1, 2011
We should all get an extra vote for that then. Microshaft should be hit with a class action for selling something not "fit for purpose" - ian-hill, Apr 1, 2011
Purchase Windows7 and install on your computer (fácil y muy bien) - Lector_Constante, Apr 1, 2011
I will definitely vote for hating Vista!! :) - 001a2987, Apr 1, 2011
@persist I have had (bought) every Windows OS since it came out was that called 3.11 ? - I made a decision never to buy another one. - ian-hill, Apr 2, 2011
I suggest you send a PM to Rolest he is quite a genius on these problems . - ray76, Apr 2, 2011

8 Answers

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Buy a new system with Windows 7. It's not XP but a whole lot better thatn Vista.

updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by Yeser007
Right. Toss that Vista-infected piece of junk into Titicaca, and get yourself a real computer. Get a Mac. ;-) (I can run XP- or whatever- concurrently on my Mac with VMWare!) - Gekkosan, Apr 1, 2011
I had thought of both those ideas - but I am a "tightarse" really tacaño. - ian-hill, Apr 1, 2011
I agree. Windows 7 is great, compared to Vista. - pesta, Apr 1, 2011
Guecosita and I agree on this one. Get a Mac! - Leatha, Apr 1, 2011
Get a Mac - Shillbaby, Apr 1, 2011
Oh my goodness! You think the solution to a bad operating system is a new computer *faints* why not buy a new operating system!? - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
@Rabbit-yes I do, the cost of upgrading a computer as old as one with XP isn't cost effective. - Yeser007, Apr 4, 2011
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Ian I recommend to you, Linux. Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, FREE and works like a champ. It is 10 times faster than Windows in every way, and seems like an OS from the far future compared to Windows and YES you can install a virtual machine under Ubuntu that can emulate XP as well, though you need the XP install discs.

updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by jeezzle
Hi Jeezle - have you tried to run / install Ubunto on a PC with Vista installed? I can't get it to do either. I could under XP. - ian-hill, Apr 2, 2011
I did it, the computer I'm using now was dualbooted with vista/ubuntu till Dell sent me a free upgrade to windows 7. You don't need to boot into Vista to install Ubuntu. You boot from the live CD, if you can't do that, do you have a hardware problem? - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
I don't know Bunny. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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I may not have a solution, exactly, but here's something similar I ran into, and my solution.

I have a couple of old programs that were developed for Windows95 (remember those days?). By some miracle, they continued to work on WindowsXP. Now that XP is close to end-of-life, and I needed a new computer, I got one with Windows 7 and I like that much better than Vista.

However, my couple of old programs simply won't work on Windows 7. There wasn't any compatibility setting in Windows that would help, because the programs themselves govern their startup. While attempting to start, they smell something in the environment that Windows 7 cannot fake, and they bomb out.

So I downloaded a free virtual-memory program from VMWare.com, called the VM Player (link to download page). It acts like a computer in your computer, including that you have to create the virtual machine by installing an operating system on it (inside this "VM"). Pretty cool. I used my old WindowsXP install discs, and had it working pretty well. Within that Virtual Machine, I could install my couple of old programs, and run them there.

So now, to run one of these programs, I start the "virtual machine" with a desktop icon, and within that system's window (which I could "maximize") I can start either or both of my old programs perfectly well.

The one problem I have not solved is that "Windows activation" seems to think I'm running an illegal copy of windows. But it works. Worst-case, I can delete the "Virtual machine" and rebuild it as above, any time I want, and the system's trial period before nagging me about activation starts over.

I wonder if any of this makes sense, and if you can work magic upon Vista with some of these techniques. If you still have your XP installation discs, this is a low-cost experiment.

updated Apr 4, 2011
edited by pesta
posted by pesta
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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Microshaft should be hit with a class action for selling something not "fit for purpose"

updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by ian-hill
The worst part is not having a choice :( You can't buy a computer at home without an operating system installed (unless you build it yourself) so I paid 100 extra euro for something I never use. - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
Exactly - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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Regarding the websites.... if they are broken in IE8, try using "compatibility mode" - click the little icon that looks like a torn piece of paper between where the URL goes and the refresh icon is. Alternatively you can use another browser like Mozilla Firefox.

updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by Lrtward
Hi Leslie - have tried IE - Chrome - Opera - Firefox / They all have problems though not always the same ones. The common denominator is Vista.(a pile of expensive intrusive junk) - ian-hill, Apr 1, 2011
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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I have heard that the new Windows 7 has the capacity to run a kind of virtual XP programme within it. I do not know the details. I use Vista myself and may upgrade when I can afford it and also when MS have worked through some of the initial teething problems usually inherent in new operating systems.... i.e. when SP2 is available

I can see the good and bad sides of Vista The worst aspect is that it much more power hungry than XP was and Windows 7 is reputed to be. I use an excellent Toshiba PC and Vista seems fairly good with it (It came with it) but performance may vary a little according to the make of computer people have.

Short of getting yourself an upgrade to Windows 7 I am not sure what else will work best

updated Apr 4, 2011
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
If you wait for them to fix the bugs in a Windows version you will never upgrade to it. The next version is the bug fix. - 0074b507, Apr 1, 2011
Thx Quentin I have to also take into account the financial implications of upgrading since I ahve other committments too :) - FELIZ77, Apr 1, 2011
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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I like Pesta's VM approach, but if you don't want to get that technical, there is no reason why you cannot run both XP and Windows 7 on the same computer. I dual boot with Windows 7 and Vista on my computer.

I would like to tell you though, if you are only going to use the XP OS occasionally, be prepared to sit through a lot of updates. I kept my Vista OS because I had a lot of programs that I had downloaded and did not have disks for to reinstall on Windows 7. I use Windows 7 90% of the time. Every time that I switch to Vista to run an old program I have to wait for Vista to install a thousand updates, then I have to wait until my virus checker updates itself, then Adobe jumps in, then.....

I have removed most of the smaller update programs so that every piece of software doesn't want to update itself, but most updates you want, so I try to open Vista at least once a week just so it will update itself in a relatively short time. If you only want to use XP every month or so, be prepared for a wait when you want to run the occasional XP program.

updated Apr 4, 2011
edited by 0074b507
posted by 0074b507
I find dual-boot harder to manage than a VM. Plus, with a VM, you have both systems at your touch at the same time. - pesta, Apr 1, 2011
I agree. I have created VM's, but they are not as simple to understand as dual boots for the uninitiated. - 0074b507, Apr 1, 2011
Qfreed-To stop the Vista updates: Go to Control Panel. Click on Windows Update Icon. Click on down arrow to "Never Check For Updates". - Rolest, Apr 2, 2011
Thank you for the suggestions. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011
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I googled it:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed_first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm The key word is "dual boot"

Windows 7 costs about 100 euros new.. not worth it

I know it's possible to run XP in a virtual machine within linux (which is free, so nothing to lose), but I don't know how to do it.

updated Apr 4, 2011
posted by rabbitwho
And to anyone who says "get a mac" that's a good but overpriced Operating system with terrible substandard hardware, if you could buy OSX in a box and run it on any computer I'd agree with you, but i'm not paying 1000 euro for hardware worth 400 - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
I think I would have been less surprised if you objected to the software (OSX is very robust, but could be leaner) rather than the hardware. What do you find substandard about Macs? (honest curiosity, not picking Mac vs PC fights here). - Gekkosan, Apr 2, 2011
...and yes, Macs are definitely not "budget" computers - but I've never had any reason to regret having had one, vs. the daily pain of having had to operate Windows PCs. - Gekkosan, Apr 2, 2011
If you compare the internal specs of a mac with that of a Dell or Lenovo or pretty much anything other than a Vaio (also overpriced) you'll realize they're selling the same stuff for twice the price. - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
Not to mention my cousin's caught fire and would have killed his children if not for the pure good fortune that they don't actually happen to have been born yet. I don't mean a bit of smoke, I mean the power pack had flames comeing out of it! - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
Mac did apologize and send him a new power pack, but what could have happened if it had caught fire when he wasn't in the room? - rabbitwho, Apr 2, 2011
Macs were origianlly intended for graphic intensive applications because they had a more powerful processor than PCs. It was their USP. - ian-hill, Apr 4, 2011