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Try to find out what this means: Miedo, María José Navarro

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This is not a killer, killer, but anyway, to start the year a simple textwink

I am not correcting until after Sunday, so you have a whoooole weekgrin I have shortened the text slightly.

Por cierto, la palabre "fútbol" se admite sin acento tambiénwink Y el texto NO es de fútbolwink

La otra noche, metida en la cama con un camisón de felpa y unos calcetines de montaña, me puse el transistor. Mi transistor es de esos que aún llevan algunos señores mayores al futbol, sin auriculares ni nada, y que sirven para que toda la grada se entere de cómo está tu equipo en relación con el resto. Tiene una ruedecita para sintonizar las emisoras y de vez en cuando rasca y se carga la señal. A punto estaba la otra noche de levantarme, pegar cuatro voces y abrazar la tecnología digital, cuando, de pronto, oí a un caballero hablar de denuncias, maltrato, fraude y abuso. Lo hacía sin puntos, ni comas, extendiéndose más de lo que puede aguantar el ritmo de una entrevista radiofónica y mucho más de lo que puede asimilarse por parte del oyente. Era el juez Serrano. El juez Serrano se las tiene tiesas con el Observatorio contra la Violencia Doméstica, concretamente con su presidenta.. así que me pareció interesantísimo escucharle. El juez Serrano aportó algunos datos y luego explicó sus conclusiones, que me sonaron ciertamente osadas y audaces y, con perdón, cogidas con alfileres y muy poco rigurosas. La vinculación que establece entre los suicidios entre los hombres a causa de la ruptura con sus parejas por culpa de las ventajas que obtienen ellas de la ley para abusar de los señores, me provocó unas ganas locas de levantarme y pegarle una ovación por el dificilísimo ejercicio de malabarismo mental que acababa de establecer, carente, sin embargo, con todos mis respetos, de una base para mantenerse en pie como argumento comprobado. ... Hablemos, no tengamos miedo.Tratar de ahogar el debate es una tontuna. El silencio, en la mayoría de los casos, sólo favorece al que debería callarse.

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updated Jan 12, 2010
edited by 00494d19
posted by 00494d19

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Okay.. I'll post this and then look at what the rest of y'all wrote... Thanks so much Heidi for posting something that's not about soccer! jejeje smile

The other night, snuggled in bed in a wooly nightgown and some mountain socks, I turned on the transistor radio. My radio is one of those that some older gentlemen still take to football games, without headphones or anything, and which assure that the whole grandstand finds out how your team is doing in relation to the rest of them. It has a little wheel to tune in the stations, and once in a while it goes all staticky and drops the signal. The other night I was just about to get up, pitch a temper tantrum, and embrace digital technology, when I suddenly heard a gentleman speaking of complaints, maltreatment, fraud and abuse. He did so without periods or commas, ranging far beyond what the normal rhythm of a radio interview could withstand, and very far beyond what the listener could assimilate. It was Judge Serrano. Judge Serrano is constantly in conflict with the Observatory Against Domestic Violence, specifically with its president, so that I found it very interesting to listen to him. Judge Serrano supplied several pieces of information, and then explained his conclusions, which sounded to me certainly daring and bold, and, forgive me, insubstantial and not well-reasoned at all. The connection that he finds between suicides among men as a result of breaking up with their significant others due to the opportunities the law gives to women to take advantage of the men, gave me a crazy urge to get up and give him a standing ovation for the extremely difficult act of mental juggling he had just done, lacking, nevertheless, with all due respect, a leg to stand on as a proven argument. Let us speak then, let us not be afraid. To try and stifle the debate is foolishness. Silence, in most cases, only favors those who should be quiet.

updated Jan 12, 2010
edited by Valerie
posted by Valerie
I could not find a flaw in this translation, awesome! Great job and great understanding of all those expressions. - 00494d19, Jan 11, 2010
nice job! You really nailed the part with "a leg to stand on" -- that was an impossible sentence! ;) - kattya, Jan 11, 2010
Well done, Valerie! :-) - chaparrito, Jan 11, 2010
Wow Thanks y' all! - Valerie, Jan 12, 2010
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The other night, I got into bed wearing a plush nightgown and some mountain socks and turned on the radio. My radio is one of those that old men take to soccer games, without headphones or anything, and it works when you want to tell the whole world how your team is doing compared to the rest.It has a small dial to tune in the station and sometimes gets noisy and loses the signal. The point was the other night I finally embraced digital technology, when right away I heard a gentleman making allegations of bad treatment, fraud, and abuse. He spoke at length without pausing, longer than I could take a radio interviewer, and much more than could be understood by the listeners. It was Judge Serrano. He took issue with the Council Against Domestic Violence, especially with its president. This made me want to listen to him. He gave some information and then explained his conclusions, that to me sounded bold and daring with, excuse me, brass balls and little logic. The links established between suicides among men because of breaking up with their partners was the fault of the advantages the law gives to women to abuse men gave me a crazy desire to get up and give him an ovation for the mental juggling he had just finished, lacking my respect, without a leg to stand on with his arguments. We should be afraid. Trying to stifle debate is a joke.Silence, in most cases, would benefit those who should shut up,

updated Jan 11, 2010
edited by lorenzo9
posted by lorenzo9
Your translation is superb. Are you a native speaker? - SusiePeppercorn, Jan 3, 2010
I wish :) I'm just a beginnerwho started studying Spanish about 4 months ago. - lorenzo9, Jan 4, 2010
4 Month ago????????????????????????????????????????? omg..... - 00494d19, Jan 4, 2010
More like 4 1/2 :) - lorenzo9, Jan 4, 2010
oh, well, then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol - 00494d19, Jan 4, 2010
4 months?? o_O - TheSilentHero, Jan 4, 2010
I love "making allegations" :) - Valerie, Jan 9, 2010
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The other night, I got into bed wearing a plush nightgown and some mountain socks and turned on the radio. My radio is one of those that old men take to soccer games, without headphones or anything, and it works when you want to tell the whole world how your team is doing compared to the rest.It has a small dial to tune in the station and sometimes gets noisy and loses the signal. The point was the other night I finally embraced (some parts missing) digital technology, when right away I heard a gentleman making allegations of bad treatment, fraud, and abuse. He spoke at length without pausing, longer than I could take a radio interviewer, and much more than could be understood by the listeners. It was Judge Serrano. He took issue --not exact-------with the Council Against Domestic Violence, especially with its president. This made me want to listen to him. He gave some information and then explained his conclusions, that to me sounded bold and daring with, excuse me, brass balls and little logic. The links established between suicides among men because of breaking up with their partners was the fault of the advantages the law gives to women to abuse men gave me a crazy desire to get up and give him an ovation for the mental juggling he had just finished, lacking my respect, without a leg to stand on with his arguments. We should be afraid. Trying to stifle debate is a joke.Silence, in most cases, would benefit those who should shut up,

Excellent job, lorenzo, some parts to work on....but let's see how the others did. Considering the time you have been studying, this shows a great understanding, as these threads are really intended for fairly advanced studentswink) so good jobsmile

updated Jan 12, 2010
posted by 00494d19
More beginners should attempt these. Trying and failing is unfortunately an important part of the learning process. while I was in Ecuador, I apparently told one guy I thought he was hot and another that I had a husband. Everybody laughed. :) - lorenzo9, Jan 11, 2010
Way to go, Lorenzo, I say that all the time, failing and learning is the same thing. Thanks for trying, good job:) - 00494d19, Jan 11, 2010
Yeah, I had a look at Heidita's text to translate and found it a bit too difficult. But, as you say, Lorenzo, why not to give it a try? Waiting for the challenge, then ;) - bomberapolaca, Jan 12, 2010
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Last night, tucked into my bed in a plush nightshirt and hiking socks, I switched on my transistor radio. My transistor is one of those that some elderly gentlemen still bring to soccer games, no headphones or anything else. They are useful is making sure that the entire row is informed on how your team is doing in comparison to all the rest. It has a small dial to tune into stations, and sometimes it gets scratchy and the sound breaks up. I was on the point of getting up, last night, telling it off, and embracing digital technology, when, all of a sudden, I heard a gentleman speaking about complaints, mistreatment, fraud and abuse. He was speaking without periods or commas, carrying on longer than the rhythm of a broadcasted interview could withstand, and much longer his listeners could take in. It was Judge Serrano.

Judge Serrano has been putting up a fight against the Commission On Domestic Violence, specifically against its president, so I thought it would be very interesting to hear what he had to say. Judge Serrano brought up some data and then explained his conclusions, which certainly sounded bold and fearless to me -- and, with apologies, flimsily held together with pins and needles. The connection which he made – between suicide among men whose marriages had broken up after their wives took advantage of the law to abuse them – gave me insane urges to get up and applaud the exceedingly difficult mental juggling act which he had completed. An act which was lacking, however, with all due respect, a solid base of proof to keep itself propped up.

We should all speak up and not be afraid. Trying to smother the debate is foolish. Silence, most of the time, only favors those who should keep quiet.


So I found many hits for "pegar cuatro voces" on google. It is clearly an idiom, but I couldn´t find any definition for it, or get a really clear sense of what it meant from the blogs etc that used it. I think either "scream your head off" or "chew someone out/tell somebody off". Or possibly, "defend oneself with great indignation".

updated Jan 11, 2010
edited by kattya
posted by kattya
Generally pegar/dar cuatro voces (a alguien) - to take somebody to task over something. - Eddy, Jan 10, 2010
Pegar/dar voces - to shout. This and the above is according to Collins Dictionary - Eddy, Jan 10, 2010
thanks! I found pegar voces, but I still cant find pegar 4 voces... oh well. ;/ - kattya, Jan 10, 2010
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Heidi, sorry it took so long. Plenty of work to do after Christmas and the new year. You can´t send me to the corner because I am already on my way, hehe. By the way, the translation is not literal, just what I think it means.

As a matter of fact the word football can be spelt without an accent and this text is NOT about football.

The other night, lying on my bed in a fleece nightgown and some thick socks I switched on the transistor radio. Mine is one of those that the older generation still take to football matches. It doesn’t have headphones or anything and it’s useful so that all the spectators can check how their teams are doing against the rest. It has a tuning button to find various stations and from time to time it scratches and packs up. The other night I was on the point of getting up, to face the task of embracing digital technology (I decided to attempt to fix the radio), when suddenly I heard a man talking about complaints, mistreatment, fraud and abuse. He was speaking non stop without full stops or commas, making himself incoherent like a very fast a radio interview and even more so for the poor listener. It was judge Serrano. The judge cannot abide the organisation against domestic violence, specifically the president, therefore I found him very interesting to listen to. The judge mentioned some facts and then explained their conclusions, which to me sounded bold and audacious, and no offence, a little shaky and demanding. The reason for suicides among men is because of the break with their partners and is the fault of the advantages that the law gives women over men. I felt like rising in order to give him a standing ovation for achieving the very difficult task of mental juggling, lacking, nevertheless, with all due respect, a basic argument. Let us not be afraid to speak. To stifle an argument is wrong. Silence, in the majority of cases, only favours those that keep quiet.

updated Jan 11, 2010
edited by Eddy
posted by Eddy
Fascinating how many expressions in this text come out differently in "British" than in "American" :) - Valerie, Jan 9, 2010
Sorry Valerie, pet hate of mine. There is no British language, only English, hehe. - Eddy, Jan 10, 2010
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Solo quiero decir que es la primera vez que veo que le digan transistor a una radio. De todas formas está bueno aprender algo nuevo todos los días.

updated Jan 11, 2010
posted by pisacaballo
un placer verte amigo - 00494d19, Jan 4, 2010
Es una palabra muy antigua, en Inglaterra, en cualquier caso. Hola de nuevo. - Eddy, Jan 5, 2010
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The other night, lying on my bed in a fleece nightgown and some thick socks I switched on the transistor radio. Mine is one of those that the older generation still take to football matches. It doesn’t have headphones or anything and it’s useful so that all the spectators can check how their teams are doing against the rest. It has a tuning button to find various stations and from time to time it scratches and packs up.------great---- The other night I was on the point of getting up, to face the task of embracing digital technology ---------yesssssssssss-----(I decided to attempt to fix the radio)nowink, when suddenly I heard a man talking about complaints, mistreatment, fraud and abuse. He was speaking non stop without full stops or commas, making himself incoherent like a very fast a radio interview and even more so for the poor listener. It was judge Serrano. The judge cannot abide the organisation against domestic violence, specifically the president, therefore I found him very interesting to listen to. The judge mentioned some facts and then explained their conclusions, which to me sounded bold and audacious, and no offence, a little shaky and demanding. The reason for suicides among men is because of the break with their partners and is the fault of the advantages that the law gives women over men. -not exact-----I felt like rising in order to give him a standing ovation----wonderful------- for achieving the very difficult task of mental juggling------great-----, lacking, nevertheless, with all due respect, a basic argument.wonderful----- Let us not be afraid to speak---- a part is missing here...... To stifle an argument is wrong. Silence, in the majority of cases, only favours those that keep quiet.

pufffffffffff, you are almost there...wink Look at the sentece...the reason for suicides...that was not exact. And she was not on the bed but in bedwink

updated Jan 11, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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Okay, I'm going out on a limb with this one. I am going to give two answers this time. This first one is completely raw. In past exercises I have sat down with my dictionary and grammar book and gone through the 'killer translation' word by word. But I tried this one flying by the seat of my pants. Now I'll go over it again and sift out all my errors (numerous, I'm sure) and post again later.


Fear, by María José Navarro

The other night, snug in bed with a ?? blanket and some ?? socks, I flipped on the radio. My transistor radio is one of those that some older men take with them to soccer games, without ?? or anything, and that are good for letting everyone ?la grada? know how your unit is compared with everyone else's. It has a little knob to tune in the broadcasts and from time to time it ? and ? the signal. I was about to get up the other night, hit ?four voices? and embrace digital technology when, suddenly, I heard a gentleman speak of ??, mistreatment, fraud and abuse. He did so without stopping or pausing, dragging on longer than what a radio interview can last? and much longer than what can be assimilated by the listener. It was Judge Serrano. Judge Serrano ?? with the Observatory against Domestic Violence, specifically with his ??... so it seemed extremely interesting to listen to him. Judge Serrano provided some facts and then explained his conclusions, which certainly sounded to me ?? and ?? and, forgive me, ?? with ?? and not very rigorous?? The link that he establishes between suicides among men because of breaking up with their mate ?because of? the advantages that the women get from the law in order to abuse the men, provoked in me a crazy urge to get up smack him a ?? for such an extremely difficult exercise in mental ?? that had just taken place, lacking, however, with all due respect, any basis to stand as a proven argument. … Let us speak, don’t be afraid. Trying to stifle the debate is absurd. Silence, in most cases, only favors the one who ought to keep quiet.

updated Jan 11, 2010
posted by chaparrito
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The other night, snug in bed with a fleece blanket and some thick hiking-socks, I flipped on the radio. My transistor radio is one of those that some older men take with them to soccer games, without headphones or anything, and that are good for letting the entire row know how your unit is compared with everyone else’s. It has a little knob to tune in the broadcasts and from time to time the signal is scratchy and has static. I was about to get up the other night, get down on all fours ----jejeje, sounds funny, but I wonder if this means to get into a tandrum??----and embrace digital technology when, suddenly, I heard a gentleman speak of accusations, mistreatment, deceit and scandal. He did so without stopping or pausing, dragging on longer than even what a radio interview should last and much longer than what can be assimilated by a listener. ------great---------It was Judge Serrano. Judge Serrano is in tight confusedwith the Society against Domestic Violence, specifically with its lady chairperson---excellent-------... So it seemed extremely interesting to listen to him. Judge Serrano provided some facts and then drew his conclusions, which certainly sounded to me bold and audacious, and, forgive me, would hold about as much water as a sieve (gored through with pins? extremely sketchy?)--------wonderful!!!------ and not very scrupulous. The link that he establishes between suicides among men because of breaking up with their mate as a result of the advantages that the women get from the law in order to abuse the men, provoked in me a crazy urge to give him a standing ovation for such an extremely difficult exercise in mental juggling that had just taken place, lacking, however, with all due respect, any basis to stand as a proven argument. ------wonderful------… Let us speak, don’t be afraid. Trying to stifle the debate is absurd. Silence, in most cases, only favors the one who ought to keep quiet.

Really good job, chaparrismile I am impressed. I would like to point out that you were the only one to make the distinction here: *with its **lady** chairperson*. The lady part was important in my opinion, as this is all about domestic violence against men in this case. Shame you got the *blanket* wrong and the *tight* part. confused However, in my opinion, you get the silver medalgrin

updated Jan 11, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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And now: Round 2. This is the edited version, complete with assistence from my friends the dictionary and the research tools. smile


Fear, by María José Navarro

The other night, snug in bed with a fleece blanket and some thick hiking-socks, I flipped on the radio. My transistor radio is one of those that some older men take with them to soccer games, without headphones or anything, and that are good for letting the entire row know how your unit is compared with everyone else’s. It has a little knob to tune in the broadcasts and from time to time the signal is scratchy and has static. I was about to get up the other night, get down on all fours and embrace digital technology when, suddenly, I heard a gentleman speak of accusations, mistreatment, deceit and scandal. He did so without stopping or pausing, dragging on longer than even what a radio interview should last and much longer than what can be assimilated by a listener. It was Judge Serrano. Judge Serrano is in tight with the Society against Domestic Violence, specifically with its lady chairperson... So it seemed extremely interesting to listen to him. Judge Serrano provided some facts and then drew his conclusions, which certainly sounded to me bold and audacious, and, forgive me, would hold about as much water as a sieve (gored through with pins? extremely sketchy?) and not very scrupulous. The link that he establishes between suicides among men because of breaking up with their mate as a result of the advantages that the women get from the law in order to abuse the men, provoked in me a crazy urge to give him a standing ovation for such an extremely difficult exercise in mental juggling that had just taken place, lacking, however, with all due respect, any basis to stand as a proven argument. … Let us speak, don’t be afraid. Trying to stifle the debate is absurd. Silence, in most cases, only favors the one who ought to keep quiet.

updated Jan 10, 2010
posted by chaparrito
Hmmm... looks like I got the 'se las tiene tiesas' completely backwards. :-( - chaparrito, Jan 10, 2010
great job so far. chaparri, I got to go, it is almost 2 am here;) - 00494d19, Jan 10, 2010
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Last night, tucked into my bed in a plush nightshirt and hiking socks, I switched on my transistor radio. My transistor is one of those that some elderly gentlemen still bring to soccer games, no headphones or anything else. They are useful is ?? making sure that the entire row is informed on how your team is doing in comparison to all the rest. It has a small dial to tune into stations, and sometimes it gets scratchy and the sound breaks up. I was on the point of getting up, last night, telling it off, and embracing digital technology, when, all of a sudden, I heard a gentleman speaking about complaints, mistreatment, fraud and abuse. He was speaking without periods or commas, carrying on longer than the rhythm of a broadcasted interview could withstand, and much longer his listeners could take in. It was Judge Serrano.

Judge Serrano has been putting up a fight ---not exact-----against the Commission On Domestic Violence, specifically against its president, so I thought it would be very interesting to hear what he had to say. Judge Serrano brought up some data and then explained his conclusions, which certainly sounded bold and fearless to me -- and, with apologies, flimsily held together with pins and needles. The connection which he made – between suicide among men whose marriages had broken up after their wives took advantage of the law to abuse them – gave me insane urges to get up and applaud the exceedingly difficult mental juggling act which he had completed.-------great--------- An act which was lacking, however, with all due respect, a solid base of proof to keep itself propped up.----great------

We should all speak up and not be afraid. ---------wonderful---------Trying to smother the debate is foolish. Silence, most of the time, only favors those who should keep quiet.----------simply perfect!!!!!!

Some parts simpl perfect, Kattya, impressed as usual. The thing with *pegar cuatro voces*, might be regional. -we use this all the time here in Madrid. It means the same as *pegar voces* actually, more or less... We also say for example: Le voy a decir cuatro cositas a ese borde.....the "cuatro" part would be translated here as " a couple of "..., in other areas, they might use...unas cuantas cosas.

updated Jan 10, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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Chaparri, this is so funny!! jeje,, never heard this expression before!!

But I tried this one flying by the seat of my pants.

good job so far, but some things missing still, I shall wait though I am hinting already....

updated Jan 10, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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The other night, snuggled in bed in a wooly nightgown --------great-------and some mountain socks, I turned on the transistor radio. My radio is one of those that some older gentlemen still take to football games, without headphones or anything, and which assure that the whole grandstand finds out how your team is doing in relation to the rest of them.------I am sure this woman has some kind of football fan among her friends!!, great!---- It has a little wheel to tune in the stations, and once in a while it goes all staticky and drops the signal. The other night I was just about to get up, pitch a temper tantrum, and embrace digital technology--great----, when I suddenly heard a gentleman speaking of complaints, maltreatment, fraud and abuse. He did so without periods or commas, ranging far beyond what the normal rhythm of a radio interview could withstand, and very far beyond what the listener could assimilate big surprise wonderful-----. It was Judge Serrano. Judge Serrano is constantly in conflict with the Observatory Against Domestic Violence, specifically with its president, so that I found it very interesting to listen to him. Judge Serrano supplied several pieces of information, and then explained his conclusions, which sounded to me certainly daring and bold, and, forgive me, insubstantial and not well-reasoned at all. The connection that he finds between suicides among men as a result of breaking up with their significant others --------I guess this means their wives??, jeje-----due to the opportunities the law gives to women to take advantage of the men, gave me a crazy urge to get up and give him a standing ovation for the extremely difficult act of mental juggling he had just done, lacking, nevertheless, with all due respect, a leg to stand on as a proven argument. Let us speak then, let us not be afraid. To try and stifle the debate is foolishness. Silence, in most cases, only favors those who should be quiet.

Well, well...awesome, my friendgrin

updated Jan 10, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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Let's see if somebody else has a go at the textwink

updated Jan 7, 2010
posted by 00494d19
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This is a good article for beginners like me - perhaps we can have some more in the future. Thanks grin

updated Jan 5, 2010
posted by Mark-Baker
jejejejem, always the joker! - 00494d19, Jan 5, 2010