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Try to find out what this means: Humo otra vez, María José Navarro

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Ok, on special request, jeje, another of María's great opinion articles. This time on football, lots of very colloquial expressions, as usual. I think this is easier than Yo leonor, let's seewink

And for next week I already have one prepared that will really make you work!!

Humo, otra vez

Leo que los dirigentes del Real Madrid están pensando en darle boleto a Gago en enero porque «no se adapta al futbol europeo» y pienso en la cantidad de equipos europeos que quisieran a Gago. Pienso también inmediatamente en Higuaín, ese futbolista brutal que en el Real Madrid se come los minutos de la basura. Y me acuerdo de Karim Benzema, aquel que nos contaron era el elegido y al que hay que darle bombo para amortizar la inversión, aunque eso le cueste al argentino más banquillo del que razonablemente se merece. A Benzema nos lo vendieron como se logra colocar en el mercado un crecepelo o la purga Benito: como el delantero total. «Ustedes no lo van a entender de lo bueno que es, oigan». Una gotas de Trezeguet, una dosis de Henry, la potencia de Adriano y la clase de Zidane. Un híbrido entre ser humano y máquina letal que le estaba pisando los talones a Anelka en su selección y al que tenía previsto quitar el puesto. Nada de eso ha sucedido.

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updated Nov 27, 2009
posted by 00494d19
My head is hurting just thinking about doing this. - Seitheach, Nov 24, 2009

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Sorry...I didn't see this until a short time ago (and after all the griping that I did, right? tongue rolleye ). Anyway, here is my attempt.

Just more smoke and mirrors (or "all smoke and no fire")

I am reading that the powers that be at Real Madrid are thinking about giving Gago his walking papers in January because, "He hasn't adapted himself to European football," and I think about the number of teams that would want Gago. Right away, I think about Higuain, that tremendous player that gobbles up all of the garbage time for Real Madrid. And I remember Karim Benzema, that one that they told us was "the chosen one" and who has to be hyped up in order to cut their losses; even though, that might cost the Argentinian more bench time than he reasonably deserves. They sold us Benzema as though they were marketing hair tonic or Benito purgative: as if he were the ultimate forward. "You're not going to believe how amazing he is - the best there is, man." A drop of Trezeguet, a dose of Henry, the power of Adriano and the class of Zidane. A cross between a human being and a lethal machine that was drafted right on the heels of Anelka, and who had foreseen taking his place. None of that has worked out.


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updated Nov 27, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
I am no where close to what you have accomplished. I was wondering if "Real Madrid" should be "Royal Madrid" or not? - Nicole-B, Nov 24, 2009
Real Madrid is the name of the football team and since it is an actual name, I don't think that you would need to change it in translation - Izanoni1, Nov 24, 2009
Well then I guess my answer is off to a horrible start. Oh well. - Nicole-B, Nov 24, 2009
ok, I am accepting this as the best, Izan has become a specialist on my threads;) - 00494d19, Nov 27, 2009
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How about this, my first edit. I have altered your bolded highlights.

Same old story.

I am reading that the owners of Real Madrid are thinking if giving Gago his marching orders in January because he hasn't quite come up to the mark in European football. I am aiming at the amount of European teams who would love Gago. I am also thinking about Higuaín, this terrific Real Madrid player who wastes his time in the bin. And I remember about Karim Benzema when they told us he was the bees knees and then they had to hype him up in order to to get their money out of the investment, although this cost him more bench time than he deserved. Then there was Benzema who they sold to us the same way you would market a bottle of hair restorer or the ousting of Benito, a true centre forward. ----excellent--------You are never to understand how good he is, listen, a drop of Trezeguet, a dose of Henry, the power of Adriano and the class of Zidane. A mixture of a human being and a perfect machine who was snapping at the heels of Anelka for his place in the team and and who was expected to leave. All of this has been a total failure.

Some parts really good, needs some workwink

I bolded the mistakes wink

updated Nov 26, 2009
edited by Eddy
posted by Eddy
Yours sound better than mine. - BellaMargarita, Nov 24, 2009
Nice Eddy...I especially like the "marching orders" and "bees knees" - Izanoni1, Nov 24, 2009
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I read that the leaders of Real Madrid are thinking about giving a bus ticket to Gago in January because “he can't adapt to European soccer” and I think there are many European teams that would like to have Gago.

I also think immediately of Higuain, the brutal player at Real Madrid that's been playing garbage minutes.

And I remember Karim Benzema, the one they said was "the chosen one" and who they had to hype up to justify the investment, although that cost the Argentine bench more than it was worth.

We sold the idea to Benzema like it was some marketing hocus-pocus, or some kind of placebo.

Look folks, you can't begin to grasp how good this guy really is. One drop of Trezeguet, a dose of Henry, the power of Adriano and the class of Zidane all rolled into one- a hybrid between man and machine that was dead on the heels of Anelka in the draft and that that was predicted to knock out of his position, none of which has happened.

updated Nov 25, 2009
posted by Goyo
Nice one Greg...I escecially like the "marketing hocus-pocus" and the "to justify the investment" - Izanoni1, Nov 24, 2009
Thanks. Was just reading yours. I liked "who gobbles up all the garbage time". Knowing a little about sports helps, eh? :) - Goyo, Nov 24, 2009
Yeah...but I know next to nothing about professional soccer. I had to look up all the players names on Wiki to put the paragraph into context. - Izanoni1, Nov 24, 2009
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I just saw it. I will start on it, but it is bed time so I'll have to finish it later.

updated Nov 26, 2009
posted by Seitheach
I posted it this morning, I hope more people will see it:-) - 00494d19, Nov 24, 2009
Oh come on!! It is only dinner time. Stop making excuses. - Nicole-B, Nov 24, 2009
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Put In His Place Again:

I have read that the leaders of Royal Madrid are considering the purchase of a ticket out of here in January, because he has not adapted to European Football and I am thinking of the number of teams who would want Gago. At the same time, I am thinking of Higuaín, the brutal football player in the Royal Madrid who eats up the extra minutes. I am in agreement with Karim Benzema, that he was given all of the hype to explain the investment; although this caused the Argentinian more time on the bench than he deserved. Benzema was sold to us like he had achieved a place in the market like the hair restorer or a holy medicine (cure).

OK, I know this is probably so far off, but I have to start somewhere. I am already quietly walking to the dunce corner. grrr smile

updated Nov 24, 2009
posted by Nicole-B
See...no sharks in here or anything. - Izanoni1, Nov 24, 2009
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By the way, to show you that no way a machine can translate this stuff and what a wonderful job you all did, that includes you, Nicolewink, this wonderful text, yahoo:

Smoke, again I read that the leaders of Real Madrid are thinking about giving ticket him to Gago in January because “does not adapt to European soccer” and fodder in the amount of European equipment that wanted to Gago. Fodder also immediately in Higuaín, that brutal soccer player who in Real Madrid eats the minutes of the sweepings. I decide and me Karim Benzema, that one told that us was chosen and to that is to give big drum him to amortize the investment, although that costs to the Argentinean more bench to him del than reasonably it is deserved. To Benzema the Benito purge sold us as it is managed to place in the market crecepelo or: like the total forward. “You are not going it to understand of the good thing that she is, they hear”. Drops of Trezeguet, a dose of Henry, the power of Adriano and the class of Zidane. A hybrid between to be human and lethal machine that was stepping on him the heels to Anelka in its selection and to that it had predicted to clear the position. Nothing of that has happened.

updated Nov 27, 2009
posted by 00494d19
I think I am going to have this made into a shirt with the word "fútbol" in big bold letters on the front - Izanoni1, Nov 27, 2009
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he was hawked to the fans as being such an awesome player that it would be impossible to even understand his awesomeness.

OK, after reading Eddy's last attempt, let's give the solution to the riddle. I guess one has to be Spanish to really understand that..jeje, actually, I asked a friend too and he said exactly what you all said, but really, that is not it.

«Ustedes no lo van a entender de lo bueno que es, oigan».

When in Spain we watch a very bad film, a very bad play, see a very bad painting, read a very bad book, ......"specialists" often indicate that the lack of success of this or that painter, director, writer etc is not that he is reaaaaaaaaaally bad, but that "people don't understand his intentions or his thoughts etc..

So in this case:

You are simply not going to understand him (his way of playing, his personality) , he is sooo good, that that is imposible.-----meaning of course, he is like a bad film, thing is we don't understand the filmwink

Literally:

You are not going to understand him, as he is so good, man!

Listen is best translated as man, I think somebody got that.

What you translated was:

No van a entender lo bueno que es.

As you can see there are two words less. Of course, the essence is the same, but ....wink

geeeez, and I am just seeing...MY EDDY got it!!

You are never to understand how good he is, listen,

updated Nov 27, 2009
edited by 00494d19
posted by 00494d19
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Heidi

How about this, my first edit. I have altered your bolded highlights.

Same old story.

I am reading that the owners of Real Madrid are thinking if giving Gago his marching orders in January because he hasn't quite come up to the mark in European football. I am aiming at the amount of European teams who would love Gago. I am also thinking about Higuaín, this terrific Real Madrid player who wastes his time in the bin. And I remember about Karim Benzema when they told us he was the bees knees and then they had to hype him up in order to to get their money out of the investment, although this cost him more bench time than he deserved. Then there was Benzema who they sold to us the same way you would market a bottle of hair restorer or the ousting of Benito, a true centre forward. ----excellent--------You are not going to understand what he is good at, listen, a drop of Trezeguet, a dose of Henry, the power of Adriano and the class of Zidane. A mixture of a human being and a perfect machine who was snapping at the heels of Anelka for his place in the team and and who was expected to leave. All of this has been a total failure.

Some parts really good, needs some workwink

I bolded the mistakes wink

updated Nov 26, 2009
edited by Eddy
posted by Eddy
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Revised, please see my latest post.

updated Nov 26, 2009
edited by Eddy
posted by 00494d19
Please miss, my translation is not literal but a general content of the text. For instance I know leo is I read but the interpretation is I understand, - Eddy, Nov 25, 2009
jejejejej - 00494d19, Nov 25, 2009
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She's basically saying (sarcastically) that he was hawked to the fans as being such an awesome player that it would be impossible to even understand his awesomeness.

This is very close...but still not exact.

Anybody??

updated Nov 26, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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that was drafted right on the heels of Anelka, and who had foreseen taking his place.

Can you explain?

Well, from what I have researched, Anelka is another much touted French striker who played for Real Madrid in the past, and she basically is saying that he thought himself (presumptuously) fit to fill those shoes - have the torch passed to him (although from what I have read, Thierry Henry is considered the top striker on the team over both Anelka and Benzema).

«Ustedes no lo van a entender de lo bueno que es, oigan».

What you say is close....but there is a sarcasm to it...let's see if you get it

Yes, by the over the top description that she gives (half-man, half-machine), I can tell that the entire passage is dripping with sarcasm and that she doesn't particularly care for this move. She's basically saying (sarcastically) that he was hawked to the fans as being such an awesome player that it would be impossible to even understand his awesomeness.

updated Nov 25, 2009
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
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that was drafted right on the heels of Anelka, and who had foreseen taking his place.

Can you explain?

«Ustedes no lo van a entender de lo bueno que es, oigan».

What you say is close....but there is a sarcasm to it...let's see if you get itwink

updated Nov 25, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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Margaret!!!! I thought Nicole had been the only women to have a go at this! wonderful!!

Smoke, Again----define...

I am reading that Real Madrid's managers are thinking of giving Gago the pink slip in January because"he has not adapted to European football" and I think of the amount of European teams who would want Gago. I immediately think of Higuaín, that wicked Real Madrid footballer who eats up the garbage minutes. And I am reminded of Karim Benezema .That one, they told us was the chosen one, and we must to hype him to make good on the investment although it cost the Argentinean more bench time than reasonably deserved. ----good, but tense wrong-------They sold him to us like snake oil.-----excellent-------- Benito as the total foward. "You won't know how good he is, listen" A drop of Terzeguet , a dose of Henry , the power of Adriano, and the class of Zidane. A cross between a human being and lethal machine nipping at Anelka's heels when he was drafted . The one anticipated to take his place. None of that has happened.

Good attempt, Margaret but needs some workwink Define smoke here.

Bolded wrong parts.

updated Nov 25, 2009
posted by 00494d19
Thanks for the corrections, what does tener previsto mean? - BellaMargarita, Nov 25, 2009
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Ok, I am pointing out the parts which you did not get or not quite, and Phil...where is your try?? wink

Humo, otra vez----Eddy, yours it not bad, but not exact

Leo que los dirigentes del Real Madrid están pensando en darle boleto------everybody got this, good job-------- a Gago en enero porque «no se adapta al futbol europeo» y pienso en la cantidad de equipos europeos que quisieran a Gago. Pienso también inmediatamente en Higuaín, ese futbolista brutal que en el Real Madrid se come los minutos de la basura. --------almost all of you got this one, good one!!------Y me acuerdo de Karim Benzema, aquel que nos contaron era el elegido y al que hay que darle bombo para amortizar la inversión, aunque eso le cueste al argentino más banquillo del que razonablemente se merece. A Benzema nos lo vendieron como se logra colocar en el mercado un crecepelo o la purga Benito: como el delantero total. «Ustedes no lo van a entender de lo bueno que es, oigan».-----nobody got this right!!-------- Una gotas de Trezeguet, una dosis de Henry, la potencia de Adriano y la clase de Zidane. Un híbrido entre ser humano y máquina letal que le estaba pisando los talones a Anelka en su selección y al que tenía previsto quitar el puesto. Nada de eso ha sucedido.

Ok, the bolded parts need some work, let's see who can do it, anyway, I am seeing this has been too easy for you, I am preparing a text which will *really make you sweat for next weekwink*

updated Nov 25, 2009
posted by 00494d19
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Nizhoni, omg...I always forget, another woman!!

Humo, otra vez tied in with the last line where things haven't materialized, I take to mean Smoke, vapor (something intangible, unreal) again.

hmm, not exactly

When I read "eats up the garbage minutes" at first I thought this might be the guy that worked miracles as time ran out, but now I think of it more as someone that excels at fumbles and wasting time on the field.

No, that is not correct.

The snake oil idea came to mind with the marketing to sell hair grower.KB was the chosen one, much touted and has spent time on the bench due to poor play or injuries ----no--------( not stated) but failed in his promise.

bolded part not correct, but yes, the rest ok.

Either Gago was a chosen one that failed though wanted by all the other European teams or he is good and it is weird that they want to dump him.

Not really, needs some workwink

updated Nov 25, 2009
posted by 00494d19