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Confused about this sentence structure....

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HOLA!

It is the end of the year and our lovely Spanish teacher has assigned a spanish project to be due two days before the end of the school year!

This is Spanish 1, and we were assigned to write a few paragraphs on our favorite restaurant. We were given five different categories to write about...and I decided to first write it in simple English and then translate it....but I realized that I have no idea how to write any of this!!

So far I have:

El Sabor de India es un restaurante está ubicado en al centro de Athens. El Sabor de India sirve excelente cocina de India.

Is this correct?

My next sentence to translate is:

They offer exquisite dishes made with fresh natural ingredients.

This is attempt number one at sentence translation translation:

Ellos oferta platos exquisito con fresco ingredientes naturales.

Would anyone be willing to help me with this...please?

Currently our area is experiencing the beginnings of a thunder/lightening storm...I'm screwed if the power goes out...haha...
GRACIAS!!!
-Anna.

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updated May 18, 2009
posted by Anna-Z

18 Answers

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Double post. Sorry.

updated May 18, 2009
posted by samdie
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oh hot dang, don't even know my own language. well. at least I still have my youth. Perhaps we become obligated to preserve the original name when it's English version is unrecognizable to the original one (to avoid confusion between languages).

updated May 18, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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yep, I'm just preserving the Georgia version of Athens...if I lived in say..."Milledgeville" there wouldn't be a spanish translation...so my thinking is that if I leave the word "Athens" it will make my paper more universal. ...or something.

Yes, people think that English means Universal nowadays; you're probably right. Of course, those who only speak Greek won't recognize the word even if you rub it all over their faces (since it doesn't sound Greek), but it is "USA's universal" nevertheless.

By the way, in Spanish we don't say "London", but "Londres", pretty much like when you say "Spain" instead of "España". In our language, the ancient capital of Greece is "Atenas", not "Athena". Otherwise, we'd have to end up calling the Chinese people "Zhunggouren" (their rightful original term), instead of "Chinese".
This is always problematical. There has (have) already been thread(s) discussing the peculiar pronunciation adopted by Americans for place names that are spelled the same as the name of famous places in other lands (and for which there exit traditional pronunciations that are quite different). This, then, poses a problem. I grew up in the tradition that advocated "pronounce the name the way that that the inhabitants use (even if it violates the customary pronunciation in other places/languages). Actually, the place names used by English-speakers are rarely close to the pronunciation in whatever language is relevant (even when English phonetics are not an obstacle). I do know that the Japanese (with their much more limited phonetic inventory) do a better job of pronouncing/transcribing foreign place names).

I know of a small town in Pennsylvania that is called "Milan". The people there say "my-lan". When referring to the city in Italy, most Americans would say "mi-lan" (or possibly "mee-lan") and only the "international set" would say "mee-lano" (even though there are no un-English sounds to hinder saying it the way the Italians do). However that leaves the question, "if somewhere, people employ a place name that is the same (or at least, spelled the same) as the name of some other (possibly [more] famous place), are they entitled to impose their own pronunciation/spelling? Put another way, to what extent are we (when borrowing from another language) obligated to preserve the original pronunciation/spelling'

updated May 17, 2009
posted by samdie
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More properly "Red, green and blue...", no comma after green.

That's in English, of course, not in Spanish.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by lazarus1907
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If I was saying: "Red, green, and blue are all great colors" would I keep the commas, and the "and" or would it be different?
More properly "Red, green and blue...", no comma after green.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Zoltán
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aahh...that's something I've always wondered. So...it's pretty much the same structure. Thanks!

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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However, I do have another question...

how do you list common nouns?

If I was saying: "Red, green, and blue are all great colors" would I keep the commas, and the "and" or would it be different'

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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how do you list common nouns?

If I was saying: "Red, green, and blue are all great colors" would I keep the commons, and the "and" or would it be different?

El rojo, el verde, y el azul son todos unos colores fantásticos.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by lazarus1907
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yep, I'm just preserving the Georgia version of Athens...if I lived in say..."Milledgeville" there wouldn't be a spanish translation...so my thinking is that if I leave the word "Athens" it will make my paper more universal. ...or something.

Yes, people think that English means Universal nowadays; you're probably right. Of course, those who only speak Greek won't recognize the word even if you rub it all over their faces (since it doesn't sound Greek), but it is "USA's universal" nevertheless.

By the way, in Spanish we don't say "London", but "Londres", pretty much like when you say "Spain" instead of "España". In our language, the ancient capital of Greece is "Atenas", not "Athena". Otherwise, we'd have to end up calling the Chinese people "Zhunggouren" (their rightful original term), instead of "Chinese".

updated May 17, 2009
posted by lazarus1907
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I couldn't think of a better word. Maybe..."national" would've been better.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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Well, that's very interesting!

yep, I'm just preserving the Georgia version of Athens...if I lived in say..."Milledgeville" there wouldn't be a spanish translation...so my thinking is that if I leave the word "Athens" it will make my paper more universal. ...or something.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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Well, if you are trying to preserve the English version, fine, but if you are trying to honour the Greek heritage, I have to warn you: the original name of the city was not Athens, but ''''', pronounced roughly as "athaena", without an "s" at the end. The Spanish pronunciation is much closer to the original Greek one than the English one. "Athena" does not even sound Greek anyway (it differs in no less than 5 phonemes from the original 5 phonemes).

updated May 17, 2009
posted by lazarus1907
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Alright! But, because it's where I live and not in reference to the most famous Athens...I will keep it Athens.
Thank you so much!

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z
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Just a suggestion to Sally's suggestion: "...una excelente comida...". By the way, "Athens" in Spanish is "Atenas".

updated May 17, 2009
posted by lazarus1907
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OH!!! Gracias!!

I thought no one would save me!!

This helps! : )

-A.

updated May 17, 2009
posted by Anna-Z