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Will a plural participal follow plural haber?

El capitán y sus compañeros leales se habrían encontrado perdidos.

Or

El capitán y sus compañeros leales se habrían encontrados perdidos.

Thank you!

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updated May 16, 2016
posted by joshuamarc
El capitan y sus leales compañeros se habían perdido (the captain and ther partner are lost) - EleRo, May 16, 2016
Encontrado is used when you find something, encontraron el tesoro (they found the treasure) hope it helped - EleRo, May 16, 2016
their partners* - EleRo, May 16, 2016

4 Answers

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The past participle stays the same no matter what. El capitán y sus compañeros leales se habrían encontrado perdidos.

Even if its a female subject: Ella habría encontradO etc etc.

Unless the past particple is being used as an adjective.

El hombre ha escrito la carta. La carta está escrita. Las cartas están escritas.

Hope that helps!

updated May 16, 2016
posted by Zein-
This is great! Thank you =) - joshuamarc, May 15, 2016
Hi, Zein! It seems we have a similar style in explaning things. :) - Daniela2041, May 16, 2016
What a compliment! I find your explanations very thorough and well written! :) - Zein-, May 16, 2016
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Here our lessons on the present perfect, and the true passive.

http://www.spanishdict.com/topics/show/35

http://www.spanishdict.com/topics/show/89

In all forms of the perfect tense, formed with the appropriate conjugation of haber, you will not modify the past participle, it will be left as is, ending in o.

In true passive, formed with the appropriate conjugation of ser, the participle is matched to both gender and number, and so can end in o, a, os or as as appropriate to match the passive subject. Remember in Spanish the true passive is not used near as much in English, and often the passive se is used instead.

updated May 15, 2016
posted by bosquederoble
Oh, this is good to know. Thanks for the links and input! - joshuamarc, May 15, 2016
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You can find the answer to this sort of question by typing an English sentence, of the sort you are interested in, into the translator. For example, if you type "They had found the man" into the translator, you get three identical translations: "Habían encontrado el hombre." In the absence of "Habían encontrados el hombre," you can guess that there's no such thing as a plural participle.

In this particular case, there was an even easier way to get your answer. Type "encontrar" into the translator, click Conjugation, and voila!

ellos/ellas/Uds. - han encontrado - hubieron encontrado - habían encontrado - habrían encontrado - habrán encontrado

I'm not discouraging your questions; just trying to show other (quicker) ways for you to find the answers.

updated May 16, 2016
posted by jtaniel
As demonstrated by Zein, the past participle C A N be plural when use as an adjective. - Daniela2041, May 16, 2016
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"El capitán y sus compañeros leales se habrían encontrado perdidos" is correct because haber in this case is conjugated to ellos but encontrar is conjugated as a participle that follows a conjugated verb.

updated May 15, 2016
posted by 005faa61
This helps a lot, thank you! - joshuamarc, May 15, 2016