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*Do Not* give answers for homework questions

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I am pretty sick of telling people that we don't just give out answers for homework questions and then have someone else reply giving them the answer.

I sure that most of the regular members here know this rule by now, so I am confused as to why this keeps happening over and over again.

Please, do not give out answers for homework!

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The Rules

If you want to help, give them hints so they can find the answer on their own. If they get it wrong, we will always be here to correct them. It is better for them this way. If they are just handed answers, they will never really learn.

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updated Aug 18, 2014
posted by NikkiLR
ah..i dont really want the answer but no how to do it. can you help explain it to me - funkey21, Feb 13, 2012
Oh, don't worry! Actually, Fredbong left a wonderful explaination on your thread! :) - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012

12 Answers

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I typically answer one of the questions posted as an example, there are usually a series of them.

This isn't doing their homework for them, it is giving them a practical example of how to do the work, and if they only post one question I assume it is because they have others, but just want a template for doing the rest of them.

The rules are too specific and don't allow for malleability. How can one say "don't translate" when there exist set phrases that no understanding of grammar would allow someone to make an educated guess? Making a response to tell them to try an attempt if they didn't do it in the first post is just stupid. I think you should just translate these and then remind them about the rules, and to follow them next time. (At least if it is a one sentence long translation)

I say, use your head.

In a lot of cases people aren't going to get it if you don't offer them at least one answer. And they are going to give up if you start talking about prepositions and pronouns and subject and verb agreement and all of these technical things which really are the only way to give proper answers. You have to give them a concrete answer on at least one of them, or they will give up because they'll feel it goes over their head. And sometimes they only have one question. So for me it is either answer the question, and add the complete explanation, or ignore it and watch as they leave SD and decide that they don't want to learn.

updated Aug 18, 2014
edited by Fredbong
posted by Fredbong
Well, you actually give good answers and explain grammar and that... which is great... but some people just give the answer and that is it. - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
If they give up because somebody doesn't think for them then they probably should give up. - Pablo-Peligroso, Feb 13, 2012
A most important point. Many of us have been adults for decades and able to make our own judgment calls. Don't try to force draconian rules on anyone! - territurtle, Feb 14, 2012
By the way, I was the first person to mention this issue and initially received quite a verbal lashing for not wanting to answer obvious exam questions texted during exams!! - territurtle, Feb 14, 2012
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Sometimes it was the result of over enthusiasm to help someone out - I guess.

updated Aug 17, 2014
posted by ian-hill
Could be =) I know I feel like that sometimes. - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
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Bumping this up as a reminder. It's ok to help someone with homework, just not to give them answers without any effort on their part.

updated Aug 18, 2014
edited by rac1
posted by rac1
Yes, there is a huge difference between doing the work for them, and helping them understand where they are going wrong and how to do it right. - bosquederoble, Aug 17, 2014
Can you tell me which post brought this up. I answered one today, but thought I was doing it properly. Was it the post about not understand the meaning of 'tiene'? - 007c5fc1, Aug 17, 2014
That post seemed to me very legitimate to answer- the person explained what they didn't get and the people answering helped to provide information to further their knowlege. ;) - bosquederoble, Aug 18, 2014
My guess would be this one: http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/265698/could-someone-translate-this-short-sentence-please - bosquederoble, Aug 18, 2014
Oh, ok. Thank you bosquederoble. - 007c5fc1, Aug 18, 2014
No one did anything wrong. I was just bumping it up for clarification. :) - rac1, Aug 18, 2014
Many times members are anxious to help someone and I'm all for that. I just wanted whomever to know that it is fine to help, just not to give answers, such as, "fill in the blank" . - rac1, Aug 18, 2014
:) - ian-hill, Aug 18, 2014
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I feel the same I have lost count of the times I have been writing an answer to suggest they have a go themselves then when I press Answer I discover someone has done all the work for them. They might get good marks but they won't learn much like that.

updated Aug 17, 2014
posted by MaryMcc
:( It is very frustrating... - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
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It seems I need to bump this up again... :(

updated Aug 17, 2014
posted by NikkiLR
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It's happened to me, too. I'll suggest that they give it a try first... then the next post is the answer.

Ian is probably right about the person being enthusiastic about helping.

updated Aug 17, 2014
posted by Tosh
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On a few occasion I may be guilty of this...sometimes I can't tell if it is homework or not...so I assume it isn't in those cases. smile

updated Aug 17, 2014
posted by webdunce
:) - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
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I meant to include that in my "how to answer a question thread." I'm glad you posted this.

updated Jun 6, 2014
posted by Leatha
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Yes, there is a huge difference between doing the work for them, and helping them understand where they are going wrong and how to do it right. ( bosquederoble - commenting to rac1)

I am seconding the remark made above by Bosque. - Typically he provides links to explanations so that the student can figure things out themselves and be better informed.

As one of a number of former teachers on the forum - I can attest to the craftiness of many students in trying to get someone else to do the work for them. The end result is typically self defeating, because it is hard to learn something, if you don't invest yourself in it.

Recently I've seen an uptick on the forum of questions that seemed to be veiled pleas to have someone provide an easy answer to a homework assignment. I'm glad to see this thread from Nikki, along with the various responses.

updated Aug 18, 2014
edited by Esteban_317
posted by Esteban_317
Gracias amigo. :) - rac1, Aug 18, 2014
Ditto :) - ian-hill, Aug 18, 2014
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I totally agree Nikki. It has happened to me on numerous occasions. I finally finished up by posting an answer "we do not do homework questions, etc", and would then close the thread. Unfortunately I cannot do that now. I just hope we now abide by the rules.

updated Jun 6, 2014
edited by Eddy
posted by Eddy
Yes, at first I thought that threads should not be closed... but now I am starting to think differently about that.... - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
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I hate to see the glass half empty right now, but what in the name of sweet Mama Heidi do these rules mean now?

Anyhoo, good thread, Nikki.

updated Jun 6, 2014
edited by SonrisaDelSol
posted by SonrisaDelSol
:( I am still upset about that... But still people should just do whatever they please now. >. - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
and thank you... - NikkiLR, Feb 13, 2012
I agree with you Nikki, that is one of our rules, they can try for themselves as part of the thread but not ask the quesitions. - martha-sd, Feb 13, 2012
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How am I supposed to know if the other person on the other side is telling me the truth?

updated Aug 18, 2014
posted by juanmelgar
Well, you don't, that's true, but if they post something like "fill in the blanks" or multiple choice, I think it's pretty obvious. If you can't tell it's homework, don't worry about it. It's not that complicated. We're just talking about questions that - rac1, Aug 18, 2014
are obvious. I appreciate all of your answers, amigo. :):) - rac1, Aug 18, 2014