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This, having nothing to do with Spanish, is just something I was wondering if anyone else had noticed. There seems to be a trend, here in New England anyway, towards the use of no problem instead of you're welcome. My wife pointed this out to me months ago and we have been paying closer attention to this change ever since. It is most prevalent in restaurants but also at checkout counters and other places where way back in the old days when you said thank you to a person the reply was you're welcome. Now I can understand there may not be anything of this type happening in Spanish speaking countries where de nada is used instead of you're welcome, since de nada itself means it was nothing and that really isn't much different than no problema anyway but here it seems almost rude to me. Well maybe rude is extreme but still it just lacks sincerety. This morning at breakfast our waitress used no problem at least 5 times with us and it took all we had not a laugh since it is now one of those inside jokes that my wife and I now have. So tell me what you think or if you have even noticed this new trend. Thank you!

PS It was Lovely's thread about "How do you do?" that prompted this.

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updated Aug 4, 2011
edited by Yeser007
posted by Yeser007
No worries mate :-) - lagartijaverde, Jul 23, 2011
you're welcome is more a way of saying "it was my pleasure" which to me has more meaning to it than it was't any problem like don't worry about it. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011

19 Answers

7
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I personally don't have a problem with it. I see it as equivalent to "Don't mention it". Spanish and French both have a similar response:

No hay de que.

Il n'y a pas de quoi.

...which both mean "there is no (reason) for (thanking me)", and I'm sure other languages have something similiar.

updated Jul 24, 2011
posted by gintar77
and I do agree to the equivalence it just seems society is moving away from politeness. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
Very good response, Gintar :) - FELIZ77, Jul 23, 2011
It is a polite thing to say - better than a grunt or gross gesture! - Lector_Constante, Jul 24, 2011
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I abhor the "no problem" response. It's about the least sincere reponse society has ever come up with.

There is a restaurant here where the wait staff always respond with "my pleasure". For some odd reason it sounds so much more personal and sincere.

updated Jul 24, 2011
posted by Jack-OBrien
Now that I like!!! Thanks Jack! - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
do they work on tips? that sounds a bit false to me - but i suppose its all about different cultures - billygoat, Jul 23, 2011
It may sound a bit false, you have to *hear* it to feel it. No, no tips :~) - Jack-OBrien, Jul 23, 2011
In Costa Rica, the pat response to a "thank you" is "with much pleasure" (con mucho gusto). If a person says, "de nada", it is a red flag that they are not from CR. - indasa, Jul 23, 2011
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I think common courtesy has taken a real beating over time. Is that progress or just the world we live in?

I would much rather someone reply to my "Thank you" with "No problem" than with the "uh-huh" I have encountered on occasion.

updated Aug 4, 2011
posted by 00d7cd75
uh huh you got my vote there!!!!! Thanks Ken. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
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It's not quite the same but the clerks around here say the words "hello", "thank-you", and "have a nice day" but there is very little sincerity behind the words. They are talking with the employee next to them, or the eyes are downcast, and even the smiles are fake. Usually the words are said as they are ringing up the next customer. It is not just one store, it is a community problem. Maybe it has to do with larger populations, maybe not. In lovely's post I said something about families not knowing the words "how do you do".

updated Aug 4, 2011
posted by bandit51jd
yes Lovely's post is what got me to write this one. I feel the same as you on the sincerety of the other words especially the constant repitition of "Have a nice day" - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
Yep, Bandit, you nailed it! - territurtle, Jul 23, 2011
It depends...for many clerks I imagine it has to do with processing people the same way endlessly day in and day out day after day...saying the same greetings and farewells 30 or 50 times per day. - webdunce, Jul 24, 2011
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Sadly, language does evolve.

I can´t begin to tell you all the things which grate on my very old ear. shut eye

But also, I understand the need for languages to evolve, so I just attempt to adjust.

Here on the forum I write in the most informal and colloquial way I know. In person, however, I tend to speak rather formally. And I've gotten into more problems with the "formal," and what I would consider polite forms of expression.

Most people seem to perceive me as being stiff, pretentious, pedantic, and any number of other not so flattering terms.

Sigh ... long face

Another example is Lazarus. I've seen him misunderstood more times than I can count. Quite frankly, I love his dry wit. But many times it seems others don't quite perceive his humor as I do. hmmm

Ah, communication, what are we to doquestion

The only thing I can offer is:

(1) consider first the age of your interlocutor; and

(2) consider the background of the person.

And hopefully, I try to be kind and forgiving, always giving the best possible interpretation. oh oh

updated Aug 4, 2011
edited by territurtle
posted by territurtle
jejeje well fortunately it is "no problem" just a trend towards less politeness. Thanks Terri - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
Before I looked as far down as your icon, I thought it was Ray writing! Remember Terri, 60 is the new 40!? - galsally, Jul 23, 2011
So did I, Sally. - 00d7cd75, Jul 23, 2011
Well, you couldn't flatter me more with your comparison!! ... And I have to say, I'm quite taken with the notion of being "the new 40!" :-> - territurtle, Jul 23, 2011
Thank you for expressin what I was going to say. I hope that was 'no problem' for you...:) - pesta, Jul 23, 2011
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This isn't an example of impoliteness, but something I find weird.

  • Can I help you today?

  • Would you like anything else today?

  • What can I do for you today?

Where did that come from?

I find it hard not to reply with a degree of cheekiness...

  • "No, but I may need something tomorrow or next week....."

Do you have this happening in other English-speaking countries?

updated Aug 4, 2011
posted by galsally
Sally it could be people simply wishing to help or a sales pitch where sales assistants have been encouraged to say this to customers. I have no problem with these questions provided the person is asking sincerely - FELIZ77, Jul 23, 2011
interesting observation Sally, I think how I would react to that depends on the mood I am in. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
not just treating me as a sales statistic so they can boast to their friends they sold more products than their colleagues / friends - FELIZ77, Jul 23, 2011
their tone of voice in asking makes all the difference - FELIZ77, Jul 23, 2011
Precisely, Gary lol! Mischievous or serious! Paul, I know they are told to say it, but where does the need for 'today' come from? - galsally, Jul 23, 2011
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I tend to think that the way we react to the word "thank you"has a lot to do with the relationship we have with the person thanking us.

Yesterday, my husband and I did a lot to help friends with the wedding of their daughter. We were thanked so many times, I lost count. It would have felt ridiculous for us to repeat a very formal 'Your welcome." each time we were thanked. So some of these responses were used:

Your very welcome.

It was a pleasure

No problemwink

Don't think about it.

and the very regional:

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Now of course I think that it is probably more mannerly to say 'Your welcome."if you are a waitress or responding to someone you don't know well. But depending on the relationship, I think "no problem" simply means "For you.....this was not a problem or inconvenience for me at all."However, I think I will be more selective when I use that expression. You have made me stop to think about it, so for that I thank you. smile

updated Jul 24, 2011
edited by Nicole-B
posted by Nicole-B
lol - 00494d19, Jul 24, 2011
Love the sign Nicole, Thank you! - Yeser007, Jul 24, 2011
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I personally don't think of it as "society moving away from politeness" at all.

I usually use "no problem" as I feel that it shows that it didn't put you out to help the person. Personally I use it when I don't want a massive amount of praise for the favours I do for people, (it's better as a shying away from praise/thanks, type of comment).

I feel that "you're welcome" offers more claim to your deed/favour/whatever you're being thanked for.

For example: when someone forgets to thank you we often say "you're welcome!", we feel we deserved to be thanked in this situation and we sarcastically say this.

I will also often use you're welcome if it was a job I almost resented doing, something that definitely was "a problem".

So for me "no problem" is a friendly more sincere way to respond to being thanked. Just my opinion, I'm sure it may vary in different culture etc. smile

updated Jul 24, 2011
posted by fi123
Thanks for your input. - Yeser007, Jul 24, 2011
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I hadn't given this much thought over the years, until a couple of years ago when somebody told me they thought it rude.

I don't think of it as any more rude than many recent expressions used today without thought to its origins. I've heard "no problem" expressed in the sweetest, most sincere way, by persons who are never rude.

Language changes, as well as customs that we associate with it. Get used to it. smile

updated Jul 24, 2011
posted by pesta
I'm used to it, I just don't care for it. I will use the expression myself in certain circumstances but to me a waitress who is relying on tips for her livelihood should give a bit more thought to that response. - Yeser007, Jul 24, 2011
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I don't have a problem

With "no problem" at all
When it comes to the not be or to be
Of courtesy
I'd rather not be than be

a problem

While it might be nice to be welcome
It's never nice to welcome
Being a problem—
Though maybe that's just me

or maybe just probably

Whichever the problem might not be
you are always most welcome to—
with all that courtesy's due—
let your flag fly free and please tell me

If you don't have a problem

updated Jul 24, 2011
edited by Izanoni1
posted by Izanoni1
No problem there for me mate , problematic or not it gets my vote. - ray76, Jul 24, 2011
ummmmmmmmmmmmmm OK Thaanks Ira! - Yeser007, Jul 24, 2011
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Well maybe rude is extreme but still it just lacks sincerety. This morning at breakfast our waitress used no problem at least 5 times with us and it took all we had not a laugh since it is now one of those inside jokes that my wife and I now have. So tell me what you think or if you have even noticed this new trend.

Yesero, I agree with you completely. As languages evolve, they seem to represent less feeling and sincerety on the part of the speaker, which also seems to parallel the direction of society in general.

I've noticed this "no problem" response now for quite a few years and I find it offensive when you are paying for a service as if to say "you are not being a problem," which is far from showing appreciation of the business you are giving these people.

The only time "No hay problema / bronca / pedo" is used in Spanish is when the speaker is truly indicating that no problem exists, and no need to worry. Although, I wouldn't be surprised to hear it used in spanglish, imitating the trendy English version.


In defense of your waitress, however, we have to realize that there are many people who gravitate to all these ridiculous, trendy phrases without giving any though to what they are really saying.

updated Jul 23, 2011
edited by 005faa61
posted by 005faa61
Thank Julian, that's the response I was looking for. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
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No problema is wrong - its 'no hay problema'!

I say 'no problem' all the time. To me the difference between 'you are welcome' and 'no problem' is perhaps in the sincerity. You might not actually 'be welcome', but it may be 'no problem' to do what you ask. Not sure if that makes sense lol, but thats how I see it.

updated Jul 23, 2011
posted by billygoat
jejeje, thanks for the correction Billygoat. - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
So, do you correct your Honduran waitress when she says "no problema"? jeje - Jack-OBrien, Jul 23, 2011
don't know im just repeating what i once saw Lazarus put. Thats, good enough for me :-) - billygoat, Jul 23, 2011
yesser. I'm not trying to be smart here mate - its about time I corrected some Spanish though lol! - billygoat, Jul 23, 2011
and it was a good correction B, I'm glad you caught me on it before Heidita did.:) - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
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After having a good read at all the replies here, this is what I think...

It is all about sincerity for me. If people actually MEAN what they say, then thats great.

I would much rather somebody give me a bog standard 'no problem' than some more lardy dar - now there's a good English slang phrase for you wink reply said with false sentiment

When I have to speak to a Call Centre in India (and please don't take this as racist because that is not my intention) I actually hate it when somebody has just given me a load of bull, or not answered my question at all and then says 'thank you so much for calling, is there anything else I can help you with'

Grrrrr, just be straight with me - I've just given you a hard time because my satellite tv is not working..... you are not glad I called, and you dont want to "help" me any more - actually you want to tell me to xxxx off and stop complaining!

Similarly in a restaurant. A guy\girl may have been working for hours - on his feet, running around serving people for a pittance of a wage. I don't really want to hear a "you are welcome sir" or "have a nice day" unless it is actually meant!!!! A simple "no problem" (because that is their job after all) will do for me.

**Can't understand why I'm in this mood this morning lol, had a great night out last night **

updated Jul 24, 2011
posted by billygoat
I guess we all have our issues, thanks Billy and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. - Yeser007, Jul 24, 2011
lol top man - billygoat, Jul 24, 2011
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For a fact, we know that language changes. As I get older I wish it would not do so while I'm paying attention.* About 15 years ago I offered coffee to a guest. I'm all set was the reply. I had no idea that meant No, thank you.

updated Jul 23, 2011
posted by Sabor
lol I had no idea it meant that either. I would have thought 'im all set' means 'yep I'm ready to have one'! - billygoat, Jul 23, 2011
jejeje that's a good one Sabor.:) - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
I hear 'I'm good, thanks' as a response to offers of food or drink, too. An import from USA? - galsally, Jul 23, 2011
They can export it if not deport it as far as I'm concerned :) Yes, it's said here - Sabor, Jul 23, 2011
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I have been hearing "no problem" for so long that I haven't given it much thought. Until now.It does sound a little less personal ,however, "no hay problema" is also used with frequency. As time goes on ,who knows ,we all may be saying " the pleasure was all mine ".

updated Jul 23, 2011
posted by heliotropeman
thumbs up!! Thank you Lord vader! - Yeser007, Jul 23, 2011
We also seem to hear 'Not a problem' nowadays too. - galsally, Jul 23, 2011