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If escuchando means 'listening', how come you still have to use escuchar when saying "I like listening to music"="Me gusto escuchar música" instead of "me gusto escuchando música"? Gracias.

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updated Feb 5, 2011
posted by thatboymymy
Welcome to the forum! - Yeser007, Feb 3, 2011
An excellent question! :) - 0066c384, Feb 3, 2011
thank you - thatboymymy, Feb 3, 2011

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"I like listening to music"

Think of it like this:

I like you - I like London. - I like icecream

These 3 use a pronoun or noun for what you like.

A present participle like "listening" in English is in fact a gerund when there is no "to be" verb with it.

A gerund acts like a noun in English so in "I like listening to music" what you like is "listening to music" (a noun phrase) - I am pretty sure the equivalent word in Spanish "escuchando" cannot be used this way - because English gerunds and Spanish gerundios are not the same.

updated Feb 4, 2011
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
Good explanation. - lazarus1907, Feb 3, 2011
Definately cannot be used in this way (for the reason that you gave). - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
Thanks Ian. - Yeser007, Feb 4, 2011
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If escuchando means 'listening', how come you still have to use escuchar when saying "I like listening to music"="Me gusto escuchar música" instead of "me gusto escuchando música"? Gracias.

Because "listening" in "I am listening" and in "I love listening" are two completely different types of words that look different in most languages. The latter (a gerund) can be replaced with "I love the listening", but the former (a present participle) can't: "I am the listening" (????) That's because in "I love listening", that "listening" is a noun (a gerund), and in Spanish we use infinitives as nouns, not gerunds.

Besides that, "me gusto" means "I like myself", and "me gusto escuchando música" means "I like myself listening to music".

Don't try to re-invent the Spanish language like most people try to do, using English as a template. Read, read, listen, read, listen, listen and do it a lot more... until you are familiar with our structures. English will not help to learn Spanish.

updated Feb 3, 2011
edited by lazarus1907
posted by lazarus1907
I know what you mean, but i am english speaker and thats the only way it makes sense to me. Practice makes perfect but im still learning the basics so bare with me. Meanwhile, thanks for your answer. - thatboymymy, Feb 3, 2011
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Here's my guess.

In the sentence "I like listening to music", I understand "listening" to be the subject of the sentence. In English, the gerund of "to listen", or "listening" can be used as a noun.

In Spanish, the infinitive can be used as a noun or an adjective. Please correct me if I am wrong, since I'm probably far beyond my skill level.

Please check the following link that explains this by examples. Gerunds are discussed about mid-way down the page.

Hope that helps! link text

updated Feb 5, 2011
posted by 0066c384
In Spanish the infinitive can be used as a noun (but not as an adjective). - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
In the provided link, the Spanish "gerundio" is consistently MIStranslated as "gerund" - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
The only workable translation of the Spanish "gerundio" is the English "participle". - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
Yes samdie unless another word exists for it. Participio exists in Spanish - BellaMargarita, Feb 5, 2011
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In English, it depends on the verb. These examples are from the book Conversando en Ingles, Prof. Jaime Garza.

Henry enjoys swimming. - Henry disfruta correr.

John considered traveling. - John consideró viajar.

Alice doesn't mind waiting. - A Alice no le importa esperar.

Frank started playing (or to play). - Frank comenzó a jugar.

Frank liked to play (or playing). - A Frank le gustó jugar.

I like listening to music. = I like to listen to music. = Me gusta escuchar música.

updated Feb 3, 2011
posted by aislinn_pr
In the sentence "I'm listening to music" then you use "escuchando". "Estoy escuchando musica". - aislinn_pr, Feb 3, 2011
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You use the gerund to say what you or others are doing at the moment in time like:En este moment estoy escuchando musica y mi esposa esta viendo la tele, los niños estan jugando en el jardín etc. on the other hand to say that you like listening to music you say A mi me gusta escuchar la música y me gustan los canciones de amor, gusta is third congugation of the verb gustar and gustan is plural, gusta is always used to precede an infinative of the verb that pleases you and when you are liking things in plural it is gustan as in my example.

updated Feb 3, 2011
edited by kenwilliams
posted by kenwilliams
You use the present participle (gerundio) to say what you or others are doing at the moment - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
me gustan las canciones de amor, "gusta" is third person singular present tense of the verb gustar - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
1st conjugation = "-ar" verbs, 2nd conj. ="-er" verbs and 3rd conj.="-ir" verbs. - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
Yes I know gusta is third person or thing singular of gustar I didn't imply that it was anything else did I? and gustan is plural so you use it to say las canciones. - kenwilliams, Feb 3, 2011
And you use the gerundio of the action verb to say what you and others are doing at the moment and it is of course used with the verb estar. - kenwilliams, Feb 3, 2011
And what is a present participle? all the verb tables list a past participle and a gerund and the congugations, tenses and moods but not a present participle. any way it is past my bed time it I am off to bed.ime - kenwilliams, Feb 3, 2011
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A hammer is a "tool". A screwdriver is also a "tool". If I use a hammer to bash in a person's head or a screwdriver to stab someone then it becomes reasonable to refer to them as "weapons" (for the purposes of that particular discussion). However no sane person (who is a competent speaker of English) would say to a carpenter "Let me borrow the hammer that you have in your "weapon box." or "I need a weapon to pound in this nail."

The definition of a "gerund" (in English) is a verbal form used as a noun. Thus, if it's not used as a noun it's not a gerund. There are two verbal forms in English that can be used as nouns: one is the present participle (derived form ending in "-ing") and the other is the infinitive. For historical reasons (or, perhaps, because they are perverse) grammarians do not normally refer to infinitives used as nouns as "gerunds". In Spanish there is only one verbal form that can be used as a noun, i.e. the infinitive. Thus, One can reasonably say of Spanish that there is no such thing as a "gerund". There is, of course, a present participle (gerundio) and it can serve other functions than constructing present progressive tenses (most notably, serving as an adverb) but it cannot function as a noun (and that is the heart and soul of the definition of a "gerund" in English).

updated Feb 3, 2011
posted by samdie
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Read up on Gerunds and Present Progressive. Those two will encompass most of what you need to know.

Here are some useful tips: Translating English -ing Words

updated Feb 3, 2011
edited by LiveUnsheathed
posted by LiveUnsheathed
Thgis article too, misuses the term "gerund". It is not the all-purpose term for a verb form ending in "-ing". - samdie, Feb 3, 2011
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I'm looking forward to the answer of this because I don't really understand it myself but I know that instead of using the gerund form as we do in English, Spanish uses the infinitive so it would be "I like to listen to music".

I'll probably get nailed for saying "the gerund form" because that is probably not right either but I tried.

updated Feb 3, 2011
edited by Yeser007
posted by Yeser007
Read ian-hill's explanation. - lazarus1907, Feb 3, 2011
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Thank you, all the explanations made sense. @stormcrowofr i sure will.

updated Feb 3, 2011
posted by thatboymymy
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Spanish doesn't use present participles as nouns like English does even in the beginning of sentences, so you're left with using the infintive. By the way you can I like to listen to music, which translates perfectly as me gusta escuchar musica.

updated Feb 3, 2011
posted by BellaMargarita