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G A M E - Preterite vs Imperfect

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Objective: practice in the use of the past tenses, preterite & imperfect

The rules:-----------------------------

  1. translate the English sentence given by the person above into Spanish using the correct preterite or imperfect verb conjugations

make sure you click on N E W E S T before you begin

Then

  1. state whether you used the preterite or the imperfect and give a short explanation as to why you used it

  • and finally
  1. provide a new sentence in English which includes a verb used in the past

for the next person to translate.

Have fun! ¡Diviértanse!

A suggestion: please keep your sentences simple. This is tricky stuff, so let's concentrate on the tenses, ok? - Gekko.

PS: here's a great link showing how the preterite is for action in the past whereas the imperfect is an ongoing condition in the past: Imperfecto vs Preterito and another that I've put together that may be of some use too, Pret vs Imp.

A big thanks to Gekko who 'was' kindly correcting this thread - Gekko if you have a mo' please post a thread below introducing yourself or post empty thread for me to introduce you, thus allowing the grateful participants to vote for all your hard and much appreciated work here wink

Edit - Sadly Gekko doesn't come round much anymore :( we'd love it if he did but in the meantime any corrections or suggestions are gratefully accepted and if someone would like to volunteer to help with moderation of this game, that'd be awesome, please just let us know so we can welcome you officially to the possie (as us antipodeans say (ie. position))

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updated Oct 25, 2014
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Maria Claire, this is a great idea! I wish you lots of takers - 005faa61, Aug 10, 2010
Muchisimas gracias :) thanx for joining in! - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 10, 2010
So many views and so few posts? Come on guys just have a go - this is for learning and we're all here to help and be helped so have a crack :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
Great idea Marie-Claire :) - --Jen--, Aug 11, 2010
What a "perfect" game!!! - --Mariana--, Aug 11, 2010
Muchisimas gracias a Maria, necesito mucha practica en el preterito/el imperfecto! - schemmn, Aug 11, 2010
Why I have seen this before my quiz last night?? Oh, well final exam is tomorrow and it will be on that, too! Muchas gracias! - chica_rica, Aug 11, 2010
Great game Maria!! I think I fixed all my mistakes! Thanks to Gekko for all his help. :) - Jason7R, Aug 11, 2010
Ok peeps, I don't know about you all but I feel like my understanding of the preterite and imperfect has improved out of sight in the just the last couple of days and I'd love to do similar threads with other things - por vs para, present vs subjunctive - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
etc, so I'm begging for moderators, please, pretty please. If out of the goodness of your heart you would consider volunteering please PM me, I know many of us would be sooooo grateful :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 11, 2010
Wonderful game MC and thanks to Gekkosan for all his help!!! - Izanoni1, Aug 18, 2010
I know, he's the bomb isn't he lol :) but don't tell him it'll probably go to his head je je Glad you're enjoying the game :) I've learnt heaps so far! - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 18, 2010
Well done Maria, I never thought you'd get 100 answers for this. - fontanero, Aug 19, 2010
I think we all need so much help with it - have you joined in yet? Come on, give it a go, we're all getting heaps wrong, it's the best way to learn so don't be shy :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 19, 2010
Thank you Marie for you encouragement and to Gekkosan for patiently answering all my questions - sanlee, Aug 21, 2010
You're welcome :) My thanx too to Gekko, he's been very patient with us all and very, very helpful :) - Kiwi-Girl, Aug 25, 2010
wonderful game, marie, thanks gekko too:) - 00494d19, Sep 1, 2010
Thanx Heidita,getting the idea was pretty easy but thanks to Gekko who's doing most of the hard work ;) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 2, 2010
A great idea, I've only discovered it a day or two ago.. Good one! - annierats, Jan 12, 2012

388 Answers

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Original Sentence But rather than hearing the creaking of the rocking chair and the rhythm of knitting needles punctuating the night, the sweet melancholic voice of a young woman singing wafted through the morning air caressing his ears and they twitched in response. I hope you don't mind MC, I took some liberties with your sentence.

Translation: Pero en vez de oír el crujido de la mecedora y el ritmo de las agujas de tejer puntuando la noche, un canto, dulce y melancólíco, de una joven flotaba en el aire de la mañana acariciando los oídos y sus orejas se contrajeron en respuesta.

Explanation: Imperfect for flotar because the music floating on the air was ongoing, setting the scene. Preterite for contraerse because his ears twitching happened in a second or two, not an ongoing action. I thought about dropping "de tejer" because in the context of this story I felt it would be understood. What do you think?

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New Sentence: The sorrowfulness of the melody brought to his mind the memory of his poor mother who was so ill she could not rise up from her bed of grass and his big eyes started to fill with tears, but he gathered together all his courage and reached out with his trunk to knock on the door of the healer.

updated Oct 25, 2010
edited by sagiia
posted by sagiia
Oh no! I guess we were working on this at the same time. My computer has been running so slowly tonight. I think I need to run an update on it, but I was trying to wait until I had finished this. - sagiia, Oct 22, 2010
That's fine, Saglia. You did a fine job there. I'll come back and do a few minor corrections later. :-) - Gekkosan, Oct 23, 2010
This also illustrates how very different approaches in translation can work perfectly well. - Gekkosan, Oct 23, 2010
"un canto dulce y melancólicO de una joven, flotaba" ..."y SUS orejas se contrajeron..." Everything else is fine. :-) - Gekkosan, Oct 23, 2010
You cannot drop "de tejer" because in the context "agujas" could be confused with the clock's hands. - Gekkosan, Oct 23, 2010
Gracias por las correciones. I wonder though, if I need to change las orejas to sus orejas, should I also change los oidos to sus oidos? - sagiia, Oct 25, 2010
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Given:But rather hearing than the sound of a rocking chair and knitting needles he heard the sound of a young woman singing. It was a sweet melancholy sound and he twitched his ears in response.

Translation:Pero en vez de escuchar el sonido de una mecedora y las agujas de tejer, escuchó el sonido de una muchacha cantando. Era un sonido dulce y melancólico, y él sacudió sus orejas en respuesta.

(I deliberately mistranslated "twitch" - I think my choice works better in Spanish)

Explanation: Escuchó: preterite. He heard this once and then it was over. Era - Imperfect - the sound continues to be sweet and melancholy. Sacudió: Preterite: This action was completed.

New Sentence: His reverie was suddenly and rudely broken by a booming voice from inside the house: "Did you come all this way just to stand out there all night swishing your stupid big ears at my door?"

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updated Oct 23, 2010
edited by Gekkosan
posted by Gekkosan
I like your choice of sacudir. It was hard to find the right word for twitch in this context. - sagiia, Oct 23, 2010
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Sentence Given:
They thought they solved the problems by moving to another city, but nothing was what it seemed.
Translation:
Pensaban que resolverían los problemas trasladándose a otra ciudad, pero nada era lo que parecía.
I used the imperfect here because there is no set timeframe.
New Sentence:
My children and their friends were playing in my house when one of them fell and broke a lamp.

updated Oct 22, 2010
edited by Jason7R
posted by Jason7R
"they solved" must go in the imperfect: it cannot be in the infinitive. Give it another shot? - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
Pensaba que resolverían los problemas trasladándose a otra ciudad, pero nada era lo que parecía". - Gekkosan, Oct 7, 2010
Thanks Gekk, I was wondering about "They thought" as "pensaba" why not "Pensaban" here? Thanks for all your help!! :) - Jason7R, Oct 7, 2010
yr right Jason, even Gekko makes typo's from time to time lol :p - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
Correct, it's Pensaban. Sorry. - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
Are you kidding?!! Thanks for the help! :) I appreciate all the hard work your doing on this thread and of course Marie!! ;) - Jason7R, Oct 8, 2010
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Given Sentence: He almost missed a doctor appointment and the last time he missed one they charged him fifty dollars.

Translation: Estuvo a punto de perder una cita con el médico y la última vez que perdió una, le cobraron cincuenta dólares.

Reason: I used preterite for all of the verbs because they were all actions that took place and were finished in the past.

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New Sentence: Outside, the night was as black as death, the wind howled a ghostly cry, and the bony fingers of the trees scratched at the windows, but inside the little cabin the little old lady was happy as she continued knitting and rocking in her rocking chair by the fire.

updated Oct 22, 2010
edited by sagiia
posted by sagiia
Excellent Sagiia, love the new sentence! - Gekkosan, Oct 13, 2010
Gracias. It is a line from a story that I tell that I am relearning to tell it in Spanish. I work with many children who do not speak English. - sagiia, Oct 13, 2010
Fits perfectly with my Dark and Stormy Night Elephant Mystery story. - Gekkosan, Oct 14, 2010
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Given: Two of the victims who were shot were members of the police.

Translation: Dos de las víctimas abaleadas eran miembros de la policía.

Explanation: While maybe the unfortunate victims are no longer alive, they never stopped being members of the police. So the tense is imperfect.

New Sentence: The Elephant understood the frame for what it was. In a panic, he dropped the gun and ran into the labyrinth o dark, smelly alleyways.

updated Oct 13, 2010
edited by Gekkosan
posted by Gekkosan
I'm not sure I completely understand this in English! Will have a go at it though... - la-maestra-roja, Oct 11, 2010
"Frame" as in "Who framed Roger Rabbit?" :-) - Gekkosan, Oct 11, 2010
oh sorry Gekko, I've been forgetting your story! Re my sentence, would this also work? Dos de las víctimas que fueron asesinados eran miembros de la policía.. Nice word by the way abaleadas. Kewl! :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 11, 2010
@María: your sentence would work (asesinadas) as an interpretration. In my case, I chose the literal approach. - Gekkosan, Oct 13, 2010
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Given:

Matthew had an accident while he was driving because he fell asleep at the wheel.

Translated:

Mateo tuvo un accidente mientras estaba conduciendo, porque se quedó dormido al volante.

Reason:

tuvo - preterite - one off singular occurence at a precise moment

estaba conduciendo - imperfect - setting the scene (I didn't use conducía because I was focusing on a particular part of a "developing action which had a start and an end" - would that be right (quote Lazarus but quite possible misapplied by me lol)

se quedó dormido - fell asleep - singular action.

New Sentence:

Years ago the mobile phone didn't exist.

updated Oct 11, 2010
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Conducía would be appropriate here. Lazarus will be the first one to tell you not to rely on rules overmuch! ;-) - Gekkosan, Oct 10, 2010
darn it! I knew I was setting myself up here lol. It's not rules so much that I want but I want to understand the difference between estar in any tense plus a gerund in comparision with the same verb in the same tense, whether it's present, imperfect or - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 10, 2010
any tense really. In this case - how do you hear estaba conduciendo in comparison to conducía? What is the difference? - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 10, 2010
does using 'estar' signify that the action is still taking place up until whatever moment is presently being talked about in the sentence (even the past if that makes sense) :{ - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 10, 2010
I'm not sure that I can give you a satisfactory answer. "Conducía" sounds natural, and it flows; I just don't feel like adding "estaba" there. Sounds cumbersome. - Gekkosan, Oct 10, 2010
ah yr killing me! If you can't explain it is there no hope? lol :p - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 10, 2010
Well, like a have said before: there's just so much you can do by understanding grammar rules. After that, it's practice and learning usage and customs! ;-) - Gekkosan, Oct 11, 2010
Well, I know in your native tongue more often than not you just know something and would find it hard to explain it with a grammatical rule, but I don't think that necessarily means there isn't one out there. I'm going to do my best to find one to fit :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 11, 2010
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I have real trouble describing weather in the past so this is probably way off - also rather than a direct translation I want to know (please) how to talk about the weather like a local lol smile So all corrections and suggestions gratefully accepted!

Given:

Have you had sunny weather lately? (Has it been sunny lately) I saw on the news that it was cloudy there yesterday.

Translated:

¿Ha estado soleado últimamente? Vi en las noticias que estuvo nublado allí ayer.

or EDIT

¿Han tenido sol por allá últimamente? Vi en las noticias que allí estuvo nublado ayer.

(I wanted to use había but that doesn't work does it?? Or should it just be estaba - ahhhhh, save me someone!)

Reason:

preterite - estuvo for specific time

New Sentence:

Matthew had an accident while he was driving because he fell asleep at the wheel.

updated Oct 8, 2010
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Actually, what you wrote is perfectly fine. Doesn't sound quite natural to me, but that's just a matter of nuances, and this is what you were asking about, after all. - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
In my real life, this conversation might go something like: ¿Han tenido sol por allá últimamente? Vi en las noticias que ayer estuvo nublado. - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
But there are many different ways to have this exchange, and there's really nothing wrong with what you wrote, except that I might prefer to say: "que allí estuvo nublado ayer". Just because. - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
fantastic, that's the order I wanted to put it too! Oh yeah something must be sinking in finally! lol Gracias por tus comentarios :) Muy appreciada (can you just say 'much appreciated' like this? or do you need 'es' or something? - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
"Lo aprecio mucho". Toakase es muy apreciada por sus hilos interesantes y educativos. ¡Aprecio mucho el trabajo que ella hace! - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
aw thanx - well they wouldn't work at all without people like you Gekko :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
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Given:

My children and their friends were playing in my house when one of them fell and broke a lamp.

Translated:

Edit: Mis niños y sus amigos estaban jugando en mi casa cuando uno de ellos se cayó y rompió una lámpara.

Mis niños y sus amigos jugaban en mi casa cuando uno de ellos se cayó y rompió una lámpara.

Mis hijos y sus amigos estaban jugando en mi casa cuando uno de ellos cayó y rompió una lámpara.

Reason:

jugaban or estaban - imperfect, scene setting

se cayó & rompió - preterite, interrupting action

(also se cayó instead of just cayó because it was an accident)

New Sentence:

Have you had sunny weather lately? I saw on the news that it was cloudy there yesterday.

updated Oct 8, 2010
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Ahh, trying to be sneaky, huh? Well, it ain't working! The *correct* answer is somewhere between your two attempts. Can you make up your mind? :-) - Gekkosan, Oct 7, 2010
ok, help me iron this one out please G. So these two have different meanings? Can the imperfect mean was/were doing something or not? I thought that although it can mean 'used to' it could also mean 'were/was' doing something??? I'm all dazed and - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
confused :( - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 7, 2010
Ok is it -......estaban jugando en mi casa cuando uno de ellos se cayó y rompió una lampara? - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
Yes "estaban jugando" is definitively the way to go. - 00e657d4, Oct 8, 2010
Thanx Guillermo, so I think this is one thing haven't quite put my finger on - so what is the difference between - estaban jugando and jugaban? Can the imperfect by itself never mean 'were or was' doing something? only 'used to'? - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
Ok - Lazarus has helped me out here - he said : When you focus on a specific point of an activity that has a distinct start and finish and develops in time, we use normally the progressive form. " - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
so ... the lamp was broken as a result of something very specific which happened as a result of their "playing", so you are focusing on a particular part of a developing action with a start and an end. - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
Hope that helps others as much as it helped me :) Thanx L - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
Seems like you got it. :-) - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
"rompió" - Gekkosan, Oct 8, 2010
Gracias :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
luckily that one was a ridgey didge typo :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 8, 2010
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Given:

"Maté used to be a favourite of mine," said the elephant, "but since knowing you I would rather drink chicha full of toothless old women's saliva."

Translation: (with some helpful edits from Gekko - especially the 'toothless' bit - nice word smile )

"Maté solía ser una de mis favoritas", dijo el elefante, "pero desde que te conocí, preferiría tomar chicha llena de saliva de viejas desdentadas.

Reason:

solía ser - used to be : imperfect/ongoing action in past

dijo - said : preterite - completed action

conocí - preterite as I feel it's stressing knowing as in meeting (rather than generally knowing)

preferiría (conditional) would prefer

New Sentence:

The man refused to speak.

updated Oct 6, 2010
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
"pero desde que te conocí, *preferiría* tomar chicha llena de saliva de viejas desdentadas". Yuck, yukk, yuck! - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
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Given:

This week I walked for four hours everyday

Translation:

Esta semana caminé por cuatro horas todos los días.

Reason:

Although the phrase "todos los días" indicates the imperfect, the time period of "por cuatro horas" made me chose the preterit.

New Sentence:

When I was a little girl I had a doll named Sally.

updated Oct 6, 2010
posted by --Mariana--
Perfecto, Marianne. - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
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Given:When I was a little girl I had a doll named Sally.

Translation: Cuando niña, tuve una muñeca llamada Sally".

Explanation: The event is over. The person had a doll, but does not anymore. Preterite.

New Sentence:The Elephant looked aghast. "I always thought you were a man!!", he said.

updated Oct 6, 2010
posted by Gekkosan
This is surely going against everything I've been taught!If we are talking about her being a little girl we're talking about a period of 5 or more years. Can't we use the imperfecto "tenía" to express this duration. Also,shouldn't it be "Cuando era niña"? - Ralf_Schnurrbartwachser, Oct 6, 2010
That's the problem you run into when you go out of the theoretical world into the real world. This is how I speak, and this is what first came to mind. Now, *can* you say it the way you are asking? Yes: - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
1. Yes you *could* use the imperfect, but the meaning is slightly different: I used to have the doll vs. I had the doll once. In English, this is clarified by context. In Spanish, by the use of imperfect or preterite. Having no context, I chose preterite. - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
2. The literal translation would be: "Cuando era una niña pequeña", but that's not how I speak. "Cuando era niña" is what you learn in textbooks. I chose to use "Cuando niña", because it is a valid form frequently used to describe events that took place.. - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
..during our childhood. - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
Cheers Gekkosan, I had a look for "Cuando niña/niño..." and found some stuff so thanks for clarifying it for me. - Ralf_Schnurrbartwachser, Oct 6, 2010
Thanks for clarifying, Gekko...I would have used "tenía" too...could we also say "de niña"? - luz_72, Oct 6, 2010
Yes, "de niña" also works. - Gekkosan, Oct 6, 2010
Thanks. - luz_72, Oct 6, 2010
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Given:

Then a wet and frightened elephant ran into the room and destroyed everything in its path.

Translated:

Luego, un elefante mojado y asustado entró en el cuarto corriendo y destruyó todo a su paso.

Suggested edit: (for style's sake and we all want to be styley now don't we smile )

Seguidamente, un elefante irrumpió en cuarto a la carrera, aterrado y mojado, destruyendo todo a su paso.

Reason: actually I found that a bit tricky to translate - the 'ran into' bit so I'll be interested to see how it should be, but anwyay . . .

entró y destruyó - preterite for completed singular action in the past

New Sentence: (I do like Mr Freezes idea of carrying on the story so I'll do the same smile )

The elephant came from the local circus and now stood dazed and bewildered in the room.

updated Sep 28, 2010
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Your translation is correct, but does not sound very natural. The following is just a suggestion in terms of style: - Gekkosan, Sep 25, 2010
"Seguidamente, un elefante irrumpió en cuarto a la carrera, aterrado y mojado, destruyendo todo a su paso." - Gekkosan, Sep 25, 2010
thanx, I never would have got that! :) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 26, 2010
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Given: The elephant came from the local circus and now stood dazed and bewildered in the room.

Translation:El elefante venía del circo local, y ahora se detuvo en el cuarto, aturdido y desconcertado.

Explanation: Venía - imperfect, a continued action that has not quite finished yet. Detuvo - preterite. The elephant is standing still, done moving. The action is thoroughly ended.

**New Sentence: ** He couldn't believe his eyes: sitting comfortably in the easy chair by the corner, with a wry smile in his face, was none other than his old nemesis, M. VIveculotte. In his hand he held a steaming gourd of maté.

updated Sep 28, 2010
posted by Gekkosan
oh my goodness!!! How long and how many sentences do you want?? Yr killing us lol :) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 26, 2010
I know I got a bit carried away with the story *blush*. But then I also figured that this game has slowed down quite a bit so those who are still interested maybe won't mind a bit of extra work? Should I shorten it? :-S - Gekkosan, Sep 26, 2010
nah that's all good, I was just teasing, bring it on lol :) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 27, 2010
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Given:It was August 8, 2008, the day my son got married, and I was very happy.

Era el 8 de Agosto de 2008, el día que mi hijo se casó, y yo estaba muy contenta.

Explanation Era- imperfect: the day has not finished. Casó: preterite - over and done with. Estaba: imperfect. She continued to be happy ever after, finally having gotten the kid out of her hair!

New Sentence It was a dark and stormy night in Puerto Rico, and the wind moaned ominously, when suddenly a flash of lightning projected a disturbing shadow against the eerily floating curtains.

updated Sep 24, 2010
posted by Gekkosan
very poetic :) - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 24, 2010
It was in fact a dark and stormy night as I wrote it. :-) - Gekkosan, Sep 24, 2010
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Just a little note to let everyone know that we have some extra help coming on board - poor Gekko is flat out like a lizard drinking this month so while he takes care of business we can be grateful for a little backup starting (as you can already see) with Guillermo!

I'm sure I can say thanx so much G2, on behalf of everyone participating on this thread, we're wrapped to have you on board, all help gratefully accepted smile

updated Sep 22, 2010
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Thanks Maria, for bringing in G2, we could really use some help here...:) - luz_72, Sep 11, 2010
Yah, yah, yah. Gekko takes a couple of days off to take care of some work, and off he gets dismissed, just like that. Oh, to fall for the stereotypical scene: guy leaves home for a few days, and comes back to find another guy cozily installed! :-O - Gekkosan, Sep 13, 2010
didn't I PM u Gekko? oooops sorry - Kiwi-Girl, Sep 14, 2010