Subjunctive Situations

Question

Are there any situations where you would use the subjunctive in an independent clause other than in commands

Answer 1

Sorry it was dejes not dejas

Answer 2

Well in this dictionary it said ¡Que me dejas! means JUST leave me alone so could the Que = just or some equivalent of just.

¡Que me dejas! can ONLY be interpreted one way: as a declaration. So it would be "¡So you're leaving me!"

¡Que me dejas! = ¡(Me estás diciendo) que me dejas!
...that you leave me! = (You are telling me) that you leave me!

If they meant to write "Just leave me alone", throw your dictionary away, because it is plain wrong. It should have been:

¡Que me dejes! = ¡(Te he dicho) que me dejes!

Again: "que" means "that", and it simply introduces a subordinate clause; it doesn't have any intrinsic meaning of any kind. Don't look for one!

Answer 3

Well in this dictionary it said ¡Que me dejas! means JUST leave me alone so could the Que = just or some equivalent of just.

Answer 4

Thanks Laz, you said that not everyone agrees what is their argument?

They don't give any arguments. Some grammars simply say that subjunctive also appears in independent clauses, and don't suggest any implicit subordination.

And did you put the "Le" in front to clarify that tenga and venga are conjugated in the 3rd person present subjunctive.

Mmmm... you're right about that, but this anticipatory pronoun is like in English "I like it when you...": it appears to be redundant, but it prepares the speaker to interpret the rest of the sentence more easily.

Also is the first Te necessary in ¡Te he dicho que te calles!

Not really, but would you say "I told you to shut up" or "I told to shut up"?

Lastly what is the significance of Que in ¡Que te calles!

That "que" is the part of "Te he dicho que te calles" after removing "Te he dicho". This conjunction cannot be omitted for a full sentence.

Answer 5

Thanks Laz, you said that not everyone agrees what is there argument?

And did you put the "Le" in front to clarify that tenga and venga are conjugated in the 3rd person present subjunctive.

Also is the first Te necessary in ¡Te he dicho que te calles!

Lastly what is the significance of Que in ¡Que te calles!

Answer 6

Personally (and not everyone agrees here), subjunctive is only used in dependent clauses, and where the main clause is not present, it is implicit.

Venga. = Le ruego que venga.
¡Que te calles! = ¡Te he dicho que te calles!
Tenga un buen día. = Le deseo que tenga un buen día.
¡Así sea! = ¡Nos aseguraremos de que así sea!

As you can see, wishes, commands, suggestions,... and all of them non-declarative clauses.