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Question

How would you translate "y ya" and "Ya" in the following context?

"Sus amigas pensaron también que le iba a pasar algo, y luego se vinieron. Luego se vinieron a verla, y ya. Ya no pasó nada."

I'm looking for various possibilities here, and I have to support my final choice with a dictionary or other reliable reference.

Answer 1

Quentin, pues no era así como suponías. Solo se podía entender de hecho con mentalidad española. Por cierto, ¿entendiste algo de lo que se dijo en la cinta?

en este hilo igual que en el otro, un agradecimiento especial al *software guy *NUMBER ONE!

Answer 2

Wow! Muchísimas gracias, Heidita. Tanto trabajo que has hecho, ¡voy a tener que partir mi cuota contigo!

Answer 3

Para lo de "Y ya no pasó.."

ya.

(Del lat. iam).

1. adv. t. Denota el tiempo pasado. Ya hemos hablado de esto más de una vez.
   Yo creo que puedes usar esta definición o si no:

pues ~.

1. loc. conjunt. Por supuesto, ciertamente.

Esto equivale a "y ya está"...en fin, hay muchos diccionarios en la web, pero como lo de y ya no es regional solamente...

Answer 4

The audio was essential to get this rocco.

He does not say y ya, he says y na, very colloquial for : y nada, which does not mean anything here, if you ask me, just a *coletilla * at the end. It's like : well, so nothing more, that's it, nothing else.. .....

The ya no has been established already.

Mexican dictionary.

this for "y na"

http://www.asihablamos.com/word/palabra/Na.php

Y ya is not really only used in Mexico, we use it the same way here:

y ya: y ya está (that's it, there is nothing else)

However, a serious dictionary for Mexican Spanish, in case you need it later on:

http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/45737575101825028299979/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/arqnasta/mexicodicc.htm#N

Y ya no pasó nada (más).

Very suspicious the "se escondió en la habitación", why would she do that if she had no reason...hmmm, sounds very guilty this guy.

Another question, how did her friends get there? Did she call them? All this is very strange.

Well, but what he says is "y ya" and "y na"...but this is not a very important part of the conversation.

Answer 5

WONDERFUL!!!!!!

I don¡t know if this is proof enough, but that is it for " y ya" especially if the speaker is a Mexican.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php't=112378

Heidita, you're a genious. Yes, the speaker is Mexican. This comfirms it for me sufficiently. Does anyone know of a dictionary or published reference I can cite for this translation?

Thanks

Answer 6

Eso es lo que yo pensaba también. Sólo me hace falta una referencia para dar esas traducciones a esas expresiones 'y ya' y 'Ya ''.

Gracias por todo, Heidita.

¡Que sueñes con los angelitos!

Answer 7

WONDERFUL!!!!!!

I don¡t know if this is proof enough, but that is it for " y ya" especially if the speaker is a Mexican.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php't=112378

Answer 8

I tried to attach the sound file, but could not. (See my post under "soción.")

More context:

A man is accused of assaulting a girl, and he denies the allegation.

He explains:

Her friends saw me talking with her and thought that something was going to happen to her, and so they "se vinieron a verla, y ya. Ya no pasado nada."

This is the account of the accused, explaining that what he is accused of could not have happened; after all, her friends were there."

Well, well, at this pace i will go to bed at 2 again, jeje

i am quite sure now that he said:

So they came to see/to be with her, and that's it/that was it. Ya, no pasó nada. so/hence/that's it/that's all, nothing happened.

Answer 9

I tried to attach the sound file, but could not. (See my post under "soción.")

More context:

A man is accused of assaulting a girl, and he denies the allegation.

He explains:
Her friends saw me talking with her and thought that something was going to happen to her, and so they "se vinieron a verla, y ya. Ya no pasado nada."

This is the account of the accused, explaining that what he is accused of could not have happened; after all, her friends were there."

Answer 10

"Sus amigas pensaron también que le iba a pasar algo, y luego se vinieron. Luego se vinieron a verla, y ya. Ya no paso nada."

Ok, then let's try to interpret:

..thought something was going to happen to her and then they came/went (home')
Then they came to visit her, and that's it. And nothing else happened/and that was all.
...y ya is short for : y ya está

From WR: aprietas este botón ¡y ~ está! you press this button, and that's it!

Ya no is normally: not any longer, but here it means, in my opinion, either: so, nothing happened, OR nothing else happened.

Ya no pasó nada is short for: ya no pasó nada más.

WEll, well....I have just googled "ya no pasó nada más" and found to my surprise this possibility which I had not thought of:

ya, no pasó nada.

this of course, would change the whole deal:

that's it, nothing happened.

Here it is solely a question of intonation. So, now it is your turn to give more context or an interpretation of the intonation here.

Answer 11

HI rocco, is this some kind of translation? Very weird sentences.

Your Spanish mind is showing.

These are straightforward English syntax translated word for word to Spanish.

My suggestion is that ya=now.

'Sus amigas pensaron también que le iba a pasar algo, y luego se vinieron. Luego se vinieron a verla, y ya. Ya no paso nada.?

Your girlfriends also thought that something was going to happen to you. Later they came to see (her? it', I expected te), and now? Now, nothing is happening.
(I bet that Ya no threw your Spanish mind a curve).
Ya no=no longer

Answer 12

I see, so there is no possibility of getting the recording here? I guess not.

Answer 13

Yes, it is a transcription/translation of an interrogation recorded on video. Unfortunately the level of education/language of the speakers is pretty low.

Please help.

Answer 14

HI rocco, is this some kind of translation? Very weird sentences.