ella saberes que no debe (to lie) ______
we are trying to figure out what this means in english and what word needs to go where the english words to lie go? thanks
13 Answers
The word "word" in English does not come from Latin, but from the Proto-Germanic word "wurdam", and this from the Proto-Indoeuropean root "wer-", meaning "speak". The word "verbum" also comes from this Proto-Indoeuropean root, like "eirein" (to speak) , "rhetor" and "eironeia" (irony) in Greek, or "vrata" (mandate) in Sanscrit.
Ah, so it WAS related to Latin! The god that speaks Greek is that OTHER god...
Thanks, Lazarus. I knew you'd know. (And thanks, samdie, for the interesting info about the original Greek.)
By the way, I think verbum in Latin was pronounced something like "whereboom" (in English), which may be where the W in word came from. The V and U were the same letter in Latin, and both were pronounced as a Spanish U.
Supongo que se debe a que cuando escribieron la frase, decidieron dejarla lo más parecido posible a la latina:
in principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum
Ten en cuenta que en español, "verbo" también significa "elocución" o "lenguaje" (y también "hijo de Dios"). De hecho, la palabra "word" en inglés está etimológicamente relacionada con "verbum".
James Santiago said:
En el principio era el Verbo, y el Verbo era con Dios, y el Verbo era Dios.
All joking aside, this is very interesting, for two reasons. The first is that the verb is ser in the first clause. When I have heard the English, "In the beginning was the Word," I have always interpreted it to mean that "the Word" existed, something like "En el principio había el Verbo" or "En el principio existía el Verbo." I don't think I've ever seen the verb ser used in this way. Of course, in the second and third clauses, ser is used in the same way as the English "was."
The second is that "word" is rendered as "verbo" in Spanish, rather than palabra. Is there a reason for this? I suppose it's somehow related to Latin. (As we all know, God speaks Latin.)
I don't have installed a Greek keyboard (nor am I about to install one) but (if you'll pardon my romanization) what John wrote was "en arche en ho logos" (in John's case, at least, God spoke Greek). the "en" is much more like "existed" than "was". Furthermore,
"logos" (thanks mostly to Plato and Aristotle) had acquired many meanings beyond the simple "word") and John was by far the most "Hellenic" of the apostles.
En el principio era el Verbo, y el Verbo era con Dios, y el Verbo era Dios.
All joking aside, this is very interesting, for two reasons. The first is that the verb is ser in the first clause. When I have heard the English, "In the beginning was the Word," I have always interpreted it to mean that "the Word" existed, something like "En el principio había el Verbo" or "En el principio existía el Verbo." I don't think I've ever seen the verb ser used in this way. Of course, in the second and third clauses, ser is used in the same way as the English "was."
The second is that "word" is rendered as "verbo" in Spanish, rather than palabra. Is there a reason for this? I suppose it's somehow related to Latin. (As we all know, God speaks Latin.)
Eddy: De todas formas, mezclarno no, jeje, pero sí terminarlo en ar...eso existe
mentar.
(De mente).
- tr. Nombrar o mencionar a alguien o algo.
I don't know what is wrong with me tonight but the phrase should have been
"ella sabes que no debe mentir" ie, sabe, no "s"
susan said:
Eddy said:
I think this should be "ella sabes que no debe mentirar" - she knows that she shouldn't lie.
thank you . we are learning at avery elementery level and your answer makes sense.
It might make sense but the verb for "to lie" is mentir and not mentirar as I incorrectly posted.
Eddy said:
I think this should be "ella sabes que no debe mentirar" - she knows that she shouldn't lie.
thank you . we are learning at avery elementery level and your answer makes sense.
The noun "mentira" comes from the verb "mentir", and not the other way around.
En el principio era el Verbo, y el Verbo era con Dios, y el Verbo era Dios.
Heidita said:
...no debe mentir...
DOH!!!! Just felt like changing it into an "ar" verb.
...no debe mentir...
I think this should be "ella sabes que no debe mentirar" - she knows that she shouldn't lie.
