atlantes
"Otros altares, muy distintos, estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve."
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You got me. Alto relieve is high relief, not bas relief, that would be bajo relieve. but with regard to free-standing, as opposed to relief carvings, that's what I said, ...more or less.
James Santiago said:
Relief (carving, engraving, casting, etc.) can be either high or low. High relief means the carving, etc., is deep. As to bulto redondo, it is a term used in the art of sculpture, and it refers to a free-standing sculpture (one that can be viewed from any angle around 360 degrees), and is used in contradistinction to relief, which can only be viewed from a limited range of angles.
Other altars, which are quite unusual, are decorated in front with atlantes in high relief. They are thus among the oldest human figures that support altars or roofs, which have been so frequently copied since. The Olmecan atlantes, however, still aren't free-standing, as are those in Chichen Itza or Tula.
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Relief (carving, engraving, casting, etc.) can be either high or low. High relief means the carving, etc., is deep.
As to bulto redondo, it is a term used in the art of sculpture, and it refers to a free-standing sculpture (one that can be viewed from any angle around 360 degrees), and is used in contradistinction to relief, which can only be viewed from a limited range of angles.
Other altars, which are quite unusual, are decorated in front with atlantes in high relief. They are thus among the oldest human figures that support altars or roofs, which have been so frequently copied since. The Olmecan atlantes, however, still aren't free-standing, as are those in Chichen Itza or Tula.
Actually I think that these are done in relief (alto rlieve and bas relief are the same thing it seems) instead of being round columns(bulto redondo)
Eddy said:
Paul Yandre said:
Sorry, I'm new to this forum and didn't understand the proper format. I'm studying to take my Mexican citizenship exam and am presently reading: "Historia minima de Mexico", published by the Colegio de Mexico. On page 23, they are talking about the Olmec civilization and following is a sentence that uses the word 'atlantes': "Otros altares, muy distintos, estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve. Son asi los ejemplos mas antiquos de figuras humanas que soportan altares o techos que tantas veces se repetiran despues. Pero los atlantes olmecas aun no son de bulto redondo como lo seran los de Chicen Itza o de Tula." While we're at it, I don't understand the use of 'bulto' in this sentence.
As Steven has noted, un bulto can be translated as a "lump on the body" or a "swelling, bulge". I assume they are saying that the atlantes olmecas are not as lumpy as those of the chicen Itza, etc, ie they are a lot slimmer.
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That is an altar. Alter means to change, rearrange, etc.
Nathaniel said:
"Alteres" means alters, as in something that you would make sacrifices or hold religious ceremonies on.
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Paul Yandre said:
Sorry, I'm new to this forum and didn't understand the proper format. I'm studying to take my Mexican citizenship exam and am presently reading: "Historia minima de Mexico", published by the Colegio de Mexico. On page 23, they are talking about the Olmec civilization and following is a sentence that uses the word 'atlantes': "Otros altares, muy distintos, estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve. Son asi los ejemplos mas antiquos de figuras humanas que soportan altares o techos que tantas veces se repetiran despues. Pero los atlantes olmecas aun no son de bulto redondo como lo seran los de Chicen Itza o de Tula." While we're at it, I don't understand the use of 'bulto' in this sentence.
As Steven has noted, un bulto can be translated as a "lump on the body" or a "swelling, bulge". I assume they are saying that the atlantes olmecas are not as lumpy as those of the chicen Itza, etc, ie they are a lot slimmer.
Paul Yandre said:
EUREKA! Muchicimas Gracias! It appears that 'a column in the shape of a man' is the definition that fits my context.
Although Nathaniel has explained the meaning, this link gives a better insight regarding decoration using atlantes.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(architecture)]Atlantes[/url]
Buena suerte en tu camino al ser ciudadano de México.
EUREKA! Muchicimas Gracias! It appears that 'a column in the shape of a man' is the definition that fits my context.
Check this out. It appears that they are a type of statue. In English it would be called an Atlas - A column in the shape of a man. Hopefully these pictures will answer your question: http://www.dallas.net/~lalo/tula.html
Oe of the meanings of bulto is shape ,form. bulto redondo would be round shaped I think.
Paul Yandre said:
Sorry, I'm new to this forum and didn't understand the proper format. I'm studying to take my Mexican citizenship exam and am presently reading: "Historia minima de Mexico", published by the Colegio de Mexico. On page 23, they are talking about the Olmec civilization and following is a sentence that uses the word 'atlantes': "Otros altares, muy distintos, estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve. Son asi los ejemplos mas antiquos de figuras humanas que soportan altares o techos que tantas veces se repetiran despues. Pero los atlantes olmecas aun no son de bulto redondo como lo seran los de Chicen Itza o de Tula." While we're at it, I don't understand the use of 'bulto' in this sentence.
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Sorry, I'm new to this forum and didn't understand the proper format. I'm studying to take my Mexican citizenship exam and am presently reading: "Historia minima de Mexico", published by the Colegio de Mexico. On page 23, they are talking about the Olmec civilization and following is a sentence that uses the word 'atlantes': "Otros altares, muy distintos, estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve. Son asi los ejemplos mas antiquos de figuras humanas que soportan altares o techos que tantas veces se repetiran despues. Pero los atlantes olmecas aun no son de bulto redondo como lo seran los de Chicen Itza o de Tula." While we're at it, I don't understand the use of 'bulto' in this sentence.
estan decorados al frente con atlantes en alto relieve
Tal vez es un error, pero está allí.
Atlantes isn't in the sentence that he gave us, maybe he mispelled "altares"? "Alteres" means alters, as in something that you would make sacrifices or hold religious ceremonies on.
I think the Q is: what is the meaning of atlantes? I haven't been able to find it yet either.
Is there a question'