Ok Here is my mindset with molestar and gustar. plz help
I like you ( me gusta a usted/tu)
you annoy me. ( me molesta a usted/tu)
are these proper ways to say it.?
I was thinking about This and was very confused on to why it is me gusta and not yo gusto esto o eso. por una ejemplo. pero ahora veo que las oraciones aca >>>> yo te veo o yo le peleo. Ok with this being said because of the YO or the subject in the sentence. But with just having me molesta ...we are left with the question....ok so what is annoying you because before the " me" in this phrase there is no object. ellas me molestan.. ( they annoy me) Because of the ellas we don't have to ask who?
is this a good understanding on how to use these verbs or am I totally wrong and just fishing for an explanation'
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Also, "gustar" is not very much used for liking a person. See this thread.
[url=http://my.spanishdict.com/forum/topic/show'id=1710195%3ATopic%3A347785]http://my.spanishdict.com/forum/topic/show'id=1710195%3ATopic%3A347785[/url]
Nicely put, samdie!
First of all, your two sentences (in Spanish) are not correct. They should be (ignoring the "usted" choice): "Me gustas." and "Me molestas."
As for the mindset, notice that on a semantic level the two are the same. That is, someone (you) provokes an emotional response (positive/negative) in someone else (me). However, in the first (in English), I am the grammatical subject and you are the grammatical object of the verb. In the second sentence the subject and object are reversed (in English). I don't know that it's a general rule about English but I think we tend to make the 1st person the subject when the emotion is positive (like, love, adore, admire) and the object when it's a negative emotion (annoy, disgust, sicken, revolt, bore) although not all the time (hate, despise, detest).
In Spanish (at least with gustar, molestar, repugnar, encantar, chiflar) the grammatical subject is the one who produces the emotion and the object is the one who experiences the emotion. Again, there are exceptions: odiar, detestar, adorar.
Bottom line; neither language is consistent (but what language is') and you need to learn which way the verbs work on a case by case basis. By all means, start with "gustar" since you'll probably have more occasion to use it than all the others put together.
P.S. I had always heard gustar literally translated as "to please", but on Instant Immersion Spanish they say "to be likable." This might help you to think about it.
Me gustan las manzanas. / I like apples.
Literally: (To) me are likable the apples. / The apples are likable to me.
rj, it's a little harder to tell when someone's joking on a forum than it is face-to-face, because we can't see your expression.
My native language is English, but I'm having a little trouble deciphering what you wrote because it has so many mistakes. Please be more careful in the future, because we have a lot of English language learners on the site.
Thanks!!
rj said:
wow wow wow buddy. I was just joking. I'm a very jokeative person. I helped me out and posted on many of my threads. If i was taken as being rude I apologize, but once again was only joking, but the truth is I did use the search tool and i found my thread ( gustar Y sentar ) jaja but I was asking more on my mindframe on understanding the verb. because it simply confused me.
lazarus1907 said:
rj said:
thank you for the answer. cough cough lazarus.
Cough cough has already answered your question many times giving lengthy explanations. I was just suggesting that you try to search for previous threads first, because your question is one of the top 5 most frequently asked ones. If after reading those answers you are still confused, I'd gladly try to help you with a new question, but I am not going to answer the same question every day just because people can't be bothered doing a quick search first.
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wow wow wow buddy. I was just joking. I'm a very jokeative person. I helped me out and posted on many of my threads. If i was taken as being rude I apologize, but once again was only joking, but the truth is I did use the search tool and i found my thread ( gustar Y sentar ) jaja but I was asking more on my mindframe on understanding the verb. because it simply confused me.
lazarus1907 said:
rj said:
thank you for the answer. cough cough lazarus.
Cough cough has already answered your question many times giving lengthy explanations. I was just suggesting that you try to search for previous threads first, because your question is one of the top 5 most frequently asked ones. If after reading those answers you are still confused, I'd gladly try to help you with a new question, but I am not going to answer the same question every day just because people can't be bothered doing a quick search first.
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rj, please keep the discussion polite and, in the future, please use the "Search Forum" box before posting a new discussion. You will find a lot more information about gustar out there if you look.
rj said:
thank you for the answer. cough cough lazarus.
Cough cough has already answered your question many times giving lengthy explanations. I was just suggesting that you try to search for previous threads first, because your question is one of the top 5 most frequently asked ones. If after reading those answers you are still confused, I'd gladly try to help you with a new question, but I am not going to answer the same question every day just because people can't be bothered doing a quick search first.
You were doing pretty darn good 'till you wrote " thank you for the answer. cough,cough....I mean, It is okey not to like the answer or even hate the answer but at any rate,you should be thankfull that people take the time to answer you.
thank you for the answer. cough cough lazarus.
Marisa Estrada said:
Same way like english: I like you (me gustas o me caes bien) I dont like you (no me gustas o me caes mal) To annoy in spanish is like if you dont feel comfortable with somebody or with something which changes your enviroment or mood, so, for spanish is "me molestas"
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Same way like english: I like you (me gustas o me caes bien) I dont like you (no me gustas o me caes mal)
To annoy in spanish is like if you dont feel comfortable with somebody or with something which changes your enviroment or mood, so, for spanish is "me molestas"
Have you tried doing a search in the forum about "gustar" and "molestar" yet? Because we almost get every day a question about "gustar".
