run (different definitions)
i know that traditionally, the word "run," as in the physical activity, is "correr." but how is "run" used with other meanings such as these:
-He's RUNNING for president.
-There's a RUN in your stocking.
-They are going to RUN out of food.
-In the long RUN, it'll all work out.
-That 12 year old is a RUNAWAY.
21 Answers
Vamos a sacar(te) la camiseta y a ponerte el pijama.
The second "a" is there because there are two coordinated sentences with two verbs:
Vamos a sacar(te) la camiseta y vamos a ponerte el pijama.
but the second one is omitted to avoid repetitions.
Although formally speaking, it should be there, it tends to be omitted if the first predicate is long enough to distract the speaker from the rigidity of the structure. For example, in the example above, it wouldn't be surprising if people omitted the preposition, but it is more rare in sentences like:
Vamos a comer y a beber.
Vamos a comer y beber. (''')
Anne Sherwood said:
Savannah,
Good questions! I have always thought our verb 'to run' is used is so many weird ways.
Was your phrase "In the long run, it will all work out." looked at?
Annie.
(My 'replies' are always so many hours behind, you know, I'm 'replying' when you guys are all tucked up in bed I guess!)
LadyDi translated that phrase as follows, if you look back at her post: "A largo plazo, sí va a funcionar."
--As far as the time difference, that's one of the cool things about the site, don't you think? Being able to interact with people from so many different places.
Savannah,
Good questions! I have always thought our verb 'to run' is used is so many weird ways.
Was your phrase "In the long run, it will all work out." looked at?
Annie.
(My 'replies' are always so many hours behind, you know, I'm 'replying' when you guys are all tucked up in bed I guess!)
Natasha said:
Suppose that I am dressing me little boy for bed, and I want to say this: Let's take off your T-Shirt and put on your pajamas. Is this right?
Que te saquemos la camiseta, y te pongamos la pijama.
The use of the definite article is, but not the verbs, or at least not without a previous main sentence, such as "Es hora de que te saquemos la camiseta...". Otherwise, you can say:
Vamos a sacar(te) la camiseta y a ponerte el pijama.
Or even:
Saquemos la camiseta y pongamos el pijama.
The mother is in front of the boy, and we assume from the context that she is going to undress him, and not do a strip-tease (case in which she is likely to say "Voy a..."), so no possessives are required in any case.
Suppose that I am dressing me little boy for bed, and I want to say this:
Let's take off your T-Shirt and put on your pajamas.
Is this right?
Que te saquemos la camiseta, y te pongamos la pijama.
lazarus1907 said:
Ok, let's continue "socking", then:
When to use "tu calcetín"? When you can't specify that it is YOUR sock in any other way, and this distinction matters. Notice that in English is normal to use your, so I capitalized to stress it more than the usual way. This over-stress would be what we do when we use "tu" in Spanish and it wasn't necessary: we use it to emphasize.
Situation 5
A little boy has a new set of paints. His friend suggests something amusing to do:
-Píntate los cacetines de verde, a ver cómo quedan.
As soon as he says "Píntate", that "te" makes unnecessary the use of any "tu", because "te" is to "tu" what "him" is to "he".
Situation 5
A little boy has a new set of paints, and he wants to try them... on the socks of his friend, who says:
-Píntate tus cacetines, no los míos.
"Píntate" says everything we need about whose socks we are talking about, so that "tus" is over-stressing purposefully that relationship, because we want the other kid to focus on his socks, and not ours, which we prefer the way the are. We are using this "tus", not to indicate that he should paint his own, but to re-direct the attention from our socks back to his. This "tus" here makes a contrast, but it doesn't directly indicate whose socks; that is still up to "te", that can't be omitted here.
Thank you! That's the first time I've understood the distinction!
Ok, let's continue "socking", then:
When to use "tu calcetín"? When you can't specify that it is YOUR sock in any other way, and this distinction matters. Notice that in English is normal to use your, so I capitalized to stress it more than the usual way. This over-stress would be what we do when we use "tu" in Spanish and it wasn't necessary: we use it to emphasize.
Situation 5
A little boy has a new set of paints. His friend suggests something amusing to do:
-Píntate los cacetines de verde, a ver cómo quedan.
As soon as he says "Píntate", that "te" makes unnecessary the use of any "tu", because "te" is to "tu" what "him" is to "he".
Situation 5
A little boy has a new set of paints, and he wants to try them... on the socks of his friend, who says:
-Píntate tus cacetines, no los míos.
"Píntate" says everything we need about whose socks we are talking about, so that "tus" is over-stressing purposefully that relationship, because we want the other kid to focus on his socks, and not ours, which we prefer the way the are. We are using this "tus", not to indicate that he should paint his own, but to re-direct the attention from our socks back to his. This "tus" here makes a contrast, but it doesn't directly indicate whose socks; that is still up to "te", that can't be omitted here.
Quentin said:
Sorry to be so slow, but could you restate that argument. I thought the original confusion was over el calcetín (media) or tu calcetín, so I expected to see examples showing when you used one rather than the other.
I thought that you stated that you used el calcetín when it was known what (which) sock was being referred to (situation 2). In situation 1 and 3 where we don't know which sock is referred to, you also used el calcetín.
non sequitur fallacy: I think the argument went right over my head
I do understand how the "hay", "este" and "tienes" set up the ambiguous or specific situation, but what did all that have to do with the use of "el"?
lazarus1907 said:
Natasha said:
Hay una carrera en el calcetín. (tu calcetín') --Referring to clothing always confuses me.
Like many other things, it depends: "Hay" is impersonal, so we are not referring to anyone in particular. If you say "el calcetín", you are assuming that the other person knows what "the sock" really means:Situation 1There are 10 people wearing socks, and one says:-Hay una carrera en el calcetín.-¿El calcetín? ¿Qué calcetín? [The other doesn't know which sock, because there is no explicit reference to it]Situation 2One girl is showing another one of her socks:-¿Te gusta este calcetín'-Hay una carrera en el calcetín.-¿En serio? ¿Dónde? [it is clear to both what sock it is, because it has been introduced before]Situation 3-Tienes una carrera en el calcetín.-¿En serio? ¿En cuál? [tienes = you have, so he is talking about of my socks, but I don't know which one]
Lazarus' whole point (if I understood it) was to not use "tu calcetín." Everyone of his sentences avoids this.
As far as el calcetín vs. la media, we still need someone to clear that up for us English-speakers.
Coming from you this is a good compliment.
I always read whatever you write 'cause, I know that I will learn something.
lazarus1907 said:
Gus said:
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose
Actually, I was considering the same idea while I wrote my examples. I think you're completely right.
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Sorry to be so slow, but could you restate that argument. I thought the original confusion was over el calcetín (media) or tu calcetín, so I expected to see examples showing when you used one rather than the other.
I thought that you stated that you used el calcetín when it was known what (which) sock was being referred to (situation 2). In situation 1 and 3 where we don't know which sock is referred to, you also used el calcetín.
non sequitur fallacy: I think the argument went right over my head
I do understand how the "hay", "este" and "tienes" set up the ambiguous or specific situation, but what did all that have to do with the use of "el"?
lazarus1907 said:
Natasha said:
Hay una carrera en el calcetín. (tu calcetín') --Referring to clothing always confuses me.
Like many other things, it depends: "Hay" is impersonal, so we are not referring to anyone in particular. If you say "el calcetín", you are assuming that the other person knows what "the sock" really means:Situation 1There are 10 people wearing socks, and one says:-Hay una carrera en el calcetín.-¿El calcetín? ¿Qué calcetín? [The other doesn't know which sock, because there is no explicit reference to it]Situation 2One girl is showing another one of her socks:-¿Te gusta este calcetín'-Hay una carrera en el calcetín.-¿En serio? ¿Dónde? [it is clear to both what sock it is, because it has been introduced before]Situation 3-Tienes una carrera en el calcetín.-¿En serio? ¿En cuál? [tienes = you have, so he is talking about of my socks, but I don't know which one]
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Gus said:
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60 the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose
Actually, I was considering the same idea while I wrote my examples. I think you're completely right.
Natasha said:
samdie said:
Gus said:
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose you all know how thin those things are
I second the motion. I've been expecting someone to say "Aren't we talking about 'medias'? It's difficult (not impossible, I'll grant) to get a run in a sock (and men, being what we are, are unlikely to care very much).
Well, the original poster said "stocking." My grandma, who was born in 1909, used to have some that she fastened with garters to her underclothes. calcetín is the word that I thought matched stocking, but I could certainly be wrong. I thought medias were women's socks, not necessarily panty hose, but don't know how to say "panty hose."Can anyone translate some of the other lines from the original post? We've only translated two or three here.
How about, "Ese(a) muchacho(a) de 12 años se escapó de la casa," and, "A largo plazo, sí va a funcionar."
samdie said:
Gus said:
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60 the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose you all know how thin those things are
I second the motion. I've been expecting someone to say "Aren't we talking about 'medias'? It's difficult (not impossible, I'll grant) to get a run in a sock (and men, being what we are, are unlikely to care very much).
Well, the original poster said "stocking." My grandma, who was born in 1909, used to have some that she fastened with garters to her underclothes. calcetín is the word that I thought matched stocking, but I could certainly be wrong. I thought medias were women's socks, not necessarily panty hose, but don't know how to say "panty hose."
Can anyone translate some of the other lines from the original post? We've only translated two or three here.
Gus said:
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60 the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose
you all know how thin those things are
I second the motion. I've been expecting someone to say "Aren't we talking about 'medias'? It's difficult (not impossible, I'll grant) to get a run in a sock (and men, being what we are, are unlikely to care very much).
As fas as I know carrera is used only for silk stockins ( women hose), back in the 50 and 60
the lady's stockin always were tearing. Could be used about patty hose
you all know how thin those things are
