Accentuation
Textbooks and dictionaries have finally started printing accents on "prohíbe", búho" but shouldn't "rehacer" in the preterite require an written accent on " rehíce, "rehízo?
How about " rehuir" in present indicative and subjunctive? "rehúyo" - "rehúya"?
Why written accent on Reír(se), third person, singular in preterite? Ella se "rió".
38 Answers
Es verdad; "prohibir no lleva acento gráfico.
Natasha said:
Gus said:
ok I think that, I understand that the h does not separate the i eg. prohi- bir that is finehowever in practice is pronounced pro- hi -bir prohibir It is good to know that prohibir is written pro- hi-bír. thanks
If I understood the above correctly -- the stress is on the last syllable, but there is no written accent. It's just written prohibir.
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Gus said:
ok I think that, I understand that the h does not separate the i eg. prohi- bir that is fine however in practice is pronounced pro- hi -bir prohibir It is good to know that prohibir is written pro- hi-bír. thanks
If I understood the above correctly -- the stress is on the last syllable, but there is no written accent. It's just written prohibir.
ok I think that, I understand that the h does not separate the i eg. prohi- bir that is fine
however in practice is pronounced pro- hi -bir prohibir It is good to know that prohibir is written pro- hi-bír. thanks
látigo said:
We all know that the morpheme that is stressed in the infinitive form is "-ar, "-er", and "-ir" .- bailar, comer, vivir, oír, etc. " Prohíbir" would be contrary to this idea; therefore, it has to be written as "prohibir". Maybe a better example is to look at a noun like "búho". It is the same concept.
Gus said:
are you sure it is prohi-bir and not pro-hi-bir ? prohíbir
tad said:
Interesting. Like James I thought that 'h's' actually broke the dipthong in words.Can I just summarise this again to make sure I've got the gist of it:prohibir is a word of 2 syllables stressing the second 'i' with the 'ohi' pronounced as the 'oi' in '¡oiga!'prohíbo is a word of 3 syllables, stressing the 'i'and 'ahijado' is a word of 3 syllables stressing the second 'a' with the 'ahi' pronounced as the 'ai' in bailar.
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We all know that the morpheme that is stressed in the infinitive form is "-ar, "-er", and "-ir" .- bailar, comer, vivir, oír, etc. " Prohíbir" would be contrary to this idea; therefore, it has to be written as "prohibir". Maybe a better example is to look at a noun like "búho". It is the same concept.
Gus said:
are you sure it is prohi-bir and not pro-hi-bir ? prohíbir
tad said:
Interesting. Like James I thought that 'h's' actually broke the dipthong in words.Can I just summarise this again to make sure I've got the gist of it:prohibir is a word of 2 syllables stressing the second 'i' with the 'ohi' pronounced as the 'oi' in '¡oiga!'prohíbo is a word of 3 syllables, stressing the 'i'and 'ahijado' is a word of 3 syllables stressing the second 'a' with the 'ahi' pronounced as the 'ai' in bailar.
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Gus said:
are you sure it is prohi-bir and not pro-hi-bir ? prohíbir
From "Ortografía de la lengua española", from La Real Academia Española, and revised by las Academias de la Lengua Española:
La h intercalada entre dos vocales no impide que estas formen diptongo. Ejemplos: ahu-mar; ahi-ja-do.
Gus said:
are you sure it is prohi-bir and not pro-hi-bir ? prohíbir
tad said:
Interesting. Like James I thought that 'h's' actually broke the dipthong in words.Can I just summarise this again to make sure I've got the gist of it:prohibir is a word of 2 syllables stressing the second 'i' with the 'ohi' pronounced as the 'oi' in '¡oiga!'prohíbo is a word of 3 syllables, stressing the 'i'and 'ahijado' is a word of 3 syllables stressing the second 'a' with the 'ahi' pronounced as the 'ai' in bailar.
Well, up until yesterday I thought it was pro-hib-ir (as pro-hib-ír) but after digesting the information in this thread I am now given to understand that it is pronounced prohib-ir (as proib-ír)
are you sure it is prohi-bir and not pro-hi-bir ? prohíbir
tad said:
Interesting. Like James I thought that 'h's' actually broke the dipthong in words.Can I just summarise this again to make sure I've got the gist of it:prohibir is a word of 2 syllables stressing the second 'i' with the 'ohi' pronounced as the 'oi' in '¡oiga!'prohíbo is a word of 3 syllables, stressing the 'i'and 'ahijado' is a word of 3 syllables stressing the second 'a' with the 'ahi' pronounced as the 'ai' in bailar.
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Interesting. Like James I thought that 'h's' actually broke the dipthong in words.
Can I just summarise this again to make sure I've got the gist of it:
prohibir is a word of 2 syllables stressing the second 'i' with the 'ohi' pronounced as the 'oi' in '¡oiga!'
prohíbo is a word of 3 syllables, stressing the 'i'
and 'ahijado' is a word of 3 syllables stressing the second 'a' with the 'ahi' pronounced as the 'ai' in bailar.
lazarus1907 said:
samdie said:
At the risk of "beating a dead horse"...A Spanish-speaking "phonetic-speller" (i.e. one who was unaware of the etymologies of the words [in other words, the historical reasons for having the "h" in the words]) if given "ahijado","ahumado" and "prohibir" as part of a dictation exercise would be likely to write: "aijado","aumado" and "proibir"?
Likely? They do, hehe.
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samdie said:
At the risk of "beating a dead horse"... A Spanish-speaking "phonetic-speller" (i.e. one who was unaware of the etymologies of the words [in other words, the historical reasons for having the "h" in the words]) if given "ahijado","ahumado" and "prohibir" as part of a dictation exercise would be likely to write: "aijado","aumado" and "proibir"?
Likely? They do, hehe.
At the risk of "beating a dead horse"...
A Spanish-speaking "phonetic-speller" (i.e. one who was unaware of the etymologies of the words [in other words, the historical reasons for having the "h" in the words]) if given "ahijado","ahumado" and "prohibir" as part of a dictation exercise would be likely to write: "aijado","aumado" and "proibir"'
Natasha said:
¡Todavía no se puede despedir a la clase! ¿Qué quiere decir esto en inglés? Puesto que el hiato se forma con una vocal cerrada tónica.
The "hiato" is what you get when a diphthong is broken by butting an accent on the weak vowel ("débil" or "cerrada"), which becomes stressed ("tónica").
samdie said:
How did aho-rrar: diptongo en "aho" get onto your list? Earlier you said that two strong vowels do not form a diphthong.
That was a stupid mistake. I was about to finish my break when I wrote it, and I was in a rush. Ignore that one, please. That word should be "a-ho-rrar".
lazarus1907 said:
Any more questions?
How did aho-rrar: diptongo en "aho" get onto your list? Earlier you said that two strong vowels do not form a diphthong.
lazarus1907 said:
Any more questions?
¡Todavía no se puede despedir a la clase! ¿Qué quiere decir esto en inglés? Puesto que el hiato se forma con una vocal cerrada tónica.
Lo demás es claro, gracias, Heidita.
. . . Sin embargo me parece que está hecho muy complejo algo que debe ser simple, pero soy gringa. ![]()
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