subirán.. can you translate?
la frase es:
"Y junto al torrente subirán, a lo largo de su margen en este lado y en aquel lado, toda suerte de árboles para alimento."
13 Answers
James, I would say that the writer is describing his vision of what's going to happen in the future. That's the reason why he uses the future tense.
Subir - to raise, to lift up, to go up, to climb, to promote, to come up, to rise, to increase, to spread
Siempre me han enseñado que este uso del futuro en español implica el sentido de probabilidad.
Más que probabilidad, yo diría que se usa para hacer suposiciones sobre el presente, o predicciones sobre el futuro,
- *Deben de ser a eso de las tres.
- It must be about three.*
Yes, but like in: oh, you are wet...it must be raining, so probability, just as the other sentence, or let's say, almost like the other sentence.
Deben de ser las tres=serán las tres.
I cannot see any fundamental difference. We will have to wait for lazarus, he knows everything! (vamos, un verdadero asco, jejeje)
And next to the torrent they climb, all along its banks, on this side and that, every kind of fruit-bearing tree.
Much more elegant, I can almost hear Alan Whicker or even David Attenborough narrating
Yes, you are right, however, one would use guillermos's option, which also implies probability.
No entiendo. Si estoy correcto, ¿por qué se usa la otra opción? Reconozco que la de Guillermo (con la "de") también está completamente correcta (aunque cambia un poquito el sentido), pero ¿por qué insinúas que es preferida?
Siempre me han enseñado que este uso del futuro en español implica el sentido de probabilidad.
- ¿Qué hora es?
- What time is it?
- Serán las tres.
- It's probably about three / I'd guess about three.
- Deben de ser a eso de las tres.
- It must be about three.
No'
thanks, yet it is a description of something that is to happen in the future. I was just lost with this verbe as it seamed not to fit but now i think i get it.
I'm really not sure about that use for the future tense. That's not the way I would say it, but that's me. I'd rather use ""Deben estar entrando en la casa en este momento".
Somebody else opinion? Heidita, Lazarus'
Yes, that's the most obvious interpretation from a grammatical standpoint, but since he is talking about trees growing by a raging river, I thought it might be less likely from a logical standpoint. Unless he is going to be planting the trees for a new development or something.
But couldn't he also be describing a scene from memory? For example, if he has been away from his native land for many years, and he is describing the scene to a friend. In this case, wouldn't the future tense be used to refer to a present situation, as in the following?
- ¿Dónde están tus padres ahorita?
- Estarán entrando en la casa en este momento.
This implies probability. Or am I wrong'
Y junto al torrente subirán, a lo largo de su margen en este lado y en aquel lado, toda suerte de árboles para alimento.
And next to the torrent they climb, all along its banks, on this side and that, every kind of fruit-bearing tree.
Notes:
It might sound better, for some reason, to replace torrent with rapids.
The possessive "its" has no apostrophe.
While alimento does mean food, the food that grows on trees is called fruit, which is the word I chose to use.
I'm not sure how to explain why subir is in the future tense in the original, but it makes sense to me. It's as if the writer is imagining something he hasn't actually seen, or something from far away. Maybe he's remembering the scene.
Hey what about the rest!
This is the sort of descriptive sentence that 'get's me' -I kind of understand it.... but my translation never seems quite satisfactory.
For this I get:
'and next to the torrent, (I'm assuming a fast flowing river here) they'll go up (grow') along the length of it's banks, on this side and that, every type of tree for food.' (''')
subir:subirán
In this case: the trees grow all along the river....
