"That depends"
What would be similar in spanish to saying "well that depends on...." or "it just depends"?
And how is it said to pick someone up, as in give them a ride with your car, like "Sure, I can pick you up" or "do you need a ride'"
And one more thing, is it incorrect to say "necesito hacer seguro" for "I need to make sure" in spanish or do you have to use that "asegurarse" verb?
Thanks!
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Raid is sold here as well as a fly spray. Just thought I would share this useless piece of information.
Well, well, so...imagine talking without context, would you also think that somebody is offering you a bottle of RAid if he says"quieres un raid"
And a very good insecticide in Mexico.
So, you are saying that because the word is not understood in Spain, it is not valid in Mexico? That makes no sense. It is part of a local dialect. Just as some Spanish words may not be understood in Mexico, but they are still perfectly valid in Spain.
Just in case this goes unseen in the other thread:
por cierto, ayer le dije a mi joya: a ver si te digo"quieres un ride" (pronunciado raid), ¿qué crees que es esto?
Y me dijo: pues está claro: que se te ha acabado el matacucarachas. ("Raid" is a very well known cockroach killer in Spain)
jejeje, good one!
¡¡Eddy para presidente!!!
Hi lazarus, I have a question here. Are "asegurarse" and "asegurar" the direct and indirect verbs as the same as you told me last time regarding "preocuparse" and "preocupar"? If yes, I understand that 'me preocuparo" means "I worry about" and "preocuparo" means "I make other(s) worry about myself", but what about "asegurarse" and "asegurar"? I think "me aseguro de algo" means "I make sure of something", but how about "aseguro"? It doesn't make sense for me if it's translated to "I make others make sure''". Please help me clarify it.
Thank you, lazarus.
Marco
Hi Diablita
Fantastic question. Mind you "that depends" on your point of view.
Go Girl Go
I have never actually heard anyone say "de perdidos al río," and have only seen people talking about it on other forums. Are you saying that it isn't used in real speech?
And, all modesty aside, you know far more about grammar than I ever will, probably in both Spanish and English. Plus, you live in the UK, while I have only lived in Latin America for a total of maybe a few months, so you surely know English better than I know Spanish.
But I can still argue with you about foreign loan words! ![]()
If you know this "From lost to the river", you really know a lot more about my language than I know about yours, so I better shut up, because it is supposed to be a silly joke for Spanish speakers only.
Anyway, see you in Españinglishlandia.
In my experience, the higher a person's level of education, the more linguistically conservative they are. In general. But I can assure you that "dar un ride" (with ride pronounced as "raid" would be in Spanish) is completely widespread, and used at all levels of society. Of course, its register is lower, so it wouldn't be appropriate in certain situations, but that is true of most words.
By the way, what about that "From lost to the river"? It is a famous sentence in Spain.
I know, but what of it? It means "in for a penny, in for a pound," or "may as well hang for a sheep as a lamb." Are you asking me how I would feel if people started saying that in English? I wouldn't care. We already have many sayings translated from other languages, and we even leave some in their original language. "Vive la difference" and "raison d'être" are considered part of English now, because they are commonly understood by most native speakers. I frequently hear people say "Hasta la vista," and my mom always put me to bed with "Hasta mañana," although she speaks no Spanish. So what'
Well... a Mexican friend of mine who works with me in the UK can't believe that people say "ride" neither. Is he another weirdo? Or maybe it has to do with the fact that he has a (Mexican) university degree?
But maybe you are right, and illiteracy is not the main problem, but lack of common sense, or maybe something else. After all, everyone in Spain now says "tarifa plana", hahahaha.
By the way, what about that "From lost to the river"? It is a famous sentence in Spain.
See, I told you we'd never agree.
It would be funny if one day people started to destroy your language the way some illiterate computer users are destroying mine
Illiteracy has nothing to do with this topic. I agree that there are far too many people, speakers of both Spanish and English, who are either incapable of writing properly or are too lazy to do so. But the incorporation of foreign words is very distinct from this.
I can tell that you and Heidita are very emotional about this, and I know I have no chance of changing your minds (sort of like discussing religion and politics!), so I'll let it go for now.
Maybe you guys can join up with the French to help stop The Evil Encroachment of English on the virgin pure languages of the chosen ones. {wink, wink}
¡Viva México!
Have you ever heard of "From lost to the river"?
It would be funny if one day people started to destroy your language the way some illiterate computer users are destroying mine, and then I'll tell you about the advantages of saying 'I have ganas of going out? instead of saying 'I feel like going out', arguing that it is a perfectly natural and common aspect of any other language.
There are several quite common ways of expressing "give a ride" in Spanish which are used in most countries, so this "necesitas un ride" is unnecessary and an attack to the language, as it has no logic, no etymological relationship to any other word, and an unnatural spelling that contaminates one of the few useful of the Spanish language.
If every time anyone can't find a translation to a collocation, 400 million speakers have to get used to a crap translations, either we are all full time shit eaters, or we'll end up speaking several million dialects of Spanglish in the future. Thanks, but I prefer to go against the mainstream.