Ayer fue/ era...
Hola a todos,
Estaba hablando con un amigo hoy y me encontré muy confundida por una traducción. Quería decir "Él fue muy presumido ayer."
Is it correct to say "fue presumido" or would it be "era"?
My friend was trying to argue "era presumido" due to a past description, but wouldn't it be "fue" due to "ayer" indicating a more recent past? Which reasoning overrides the other and therefore, explains which would be best?
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Fue muy presumido. It is a definite instant in time. He had a presumptuous moment yesterday.
"Era muy presumido" applies to a continuous behavior over time. He was generally speaking, always a presumptuous person.
If your friendly Is a!ways presumido se say
Él es presumido.
If yesterday he was different from what he usually Is you should use estar because it Is a temporary characterístic.
Ayer cuando lo vi, estaba or estuvo muy presumido.
Both could make sense. Estaba could expresa a Monterrey periodo of Time. Estuvo indicates more the exact time yesterday.
Estar could make sense due to being temporary (for a day) ...BUT it could also mean feeling "presumido" which sounds odd both in english and spanish. you don't really feel arrogant... you either are or you aren't. so I think it's definitely between fue/ era. Hmmm...
I kept thinking about this last night, and I realized something that may be worth pointing out. This is really about the peculiar and subtle uses of ser vs. estar.
You use ser for adjectives that denote a usual, or long term quality:
Soy grande Soy honrado Soy hermoso Soy magnífico Soy genial Soy presumido
Fui/era grande, honrado, hermoso, magnífico, genial, presumido
¿Y qué pasó ayer? Pues nada, fue muy presumido, como siempre. Ayer fue presumido.
Now, if this was a temporary state of affairs, a one-off situation, then estar applies:
¿Cómo se portó ayer? Pues de la más raro: estuvo humilde y simpático. En verdad estuvo genial. Or, "¿Estuvo bien..?" "¡Uf, no! ¡Estuvo muy presumido!"
One way or the other, in the original example give, "era" does not work. You cannot say: "Él era presumido ayer".
Era, as explained, only works in the long term: "Finalmente despidieron a Pablo. Era (un) presumido".
Mi novia suele estar de acuerdo conmigo, pero ayer por la noche no fue obediente.
My girlfriend is usually in accord with me, but last night she was not compliant .

I could only find 6 hits on "estuvo presumido", I don't agree with my friend Gekko....or with Polenta, both said that under certain circumstances you could actually use estar.
This is definitely not clear cut. I had to think a lot about the possibilities, and how it sounds, but eventually I settled for what works with other adjectives.
So, you can say:
Yo soy generoso. He sido siempre generoso. Fui generoso con ellos. El presidente nunca ha sido un hombre generoso, pero ayer durante el discurso estuvo de lo más generoso con los fondos públicos.
Los mismos ejemplos se pueden usar casi sin cambiarlos con otros adjetivos: honrado, honesto, duro, amable...
Por lo tanto, tiene que funcionar con "presumido" también, aunque comúnmente no se use de esa manera. Pero incorrecto no es.
Not a native BUT i was talking to a mexican friend today who insisted on era not fue... but it doesn't sound right to me. - kgotw405
Def not my point of view. But hey, I almost never agree with Mexicans, so that doesn't really surprise me.
they speak a different language ![]()
Very interesting question, kgo, as you can see it even made us native speakers think ![]()
My friend was trying to argue "era presumido" due to a past description, but wouldn't it be "fue" due to "ayer" indicating a more recent past?
Era presumido
This works...but if I heard this without further context....I would think the person had either died or had changed completely.
However, if you are talking about ayer...you would use fue...even though I can't see this happening. Nobody is a snob for just one day or one moment in time. But it could happen...so fue presumido ayer would be the sentence to use.
I could only find 6 hits on "estuvo presumido", I don't agree with my friend Gekko....or with Polenta, both said that under certain circumstances you could actually use estar.
¿Cómo se portó ayer? Pues de la más raro: estuvo humilde y simpático. En verdad estuvo genial. Or, "¿Estuvo bien..?" "¡Uf, no! ¡Estuvo muy presumido!"
In this example I would say:
¿Estuvo bien? No, fue tan presumido como siempre.