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“No, he’s not here any longer." ("any more" is not correct)

“No, he’s not here any longer." ("any more" is not correct)

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This was said by Bigote , is this a fact?

“No, he’s not here any longer." ("any more" is not correct although a lot o people say it that way

Could you please let me know why this should not be correct? Any grammar page to support this ?

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updated Sep 14, 2017
posted by 006595c6
Interested in this as well. I would say both, and also "No, he's no longer here" with no particular preference. - 00fac92a, Sep 14, 2017
For me too even Heidi. - ian-hill, Sep 14, 2017
It is said that the USA and the UK are separated by a common language. :) - ian-hill, Sep 14, 2017
I found that an odd thing to say , I don't think there is any difference and one isn't "more" correct than the other - 006595c6, Sep 14, 2017

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Hola a todos. Been very busy these days, so not a lot of time to post. However, language, not just foreign, is something I like very much.

I'm 57 years old, and my education has included a LOT of English. Ever since I started school, "any more" has been a perfectly correct phrase. Perhaps at one time it was not considered so, but it has been for at least the half century+ that I've been alive, at least in the U.S. I don't know about "anymore." I've often seen it written that way, but I've never really thought about it as correct or incorrect.

Language is constantly changing, and this may have been one of those times. There was a very interesting interview I heard of a well-known linguist. His point was just that - language has to grow and change, or it dies. It's about communicating ideas. Correct grammar is important, but but it's not everything.

I found very interesting.one example he gave. They played a clip from a couple of crime movies from the 40's or 50's. In it, they referred to the man they thought committed the crime as the "suh-SPECT." Of course now we pronounce the noun of the word as "SUH-spect' and the verb form as "suh-SPECT."

That's my dos centavos.

Have a great day everyone!!

updated Sep 14, 2017
posted by Winkfish
I remember in a film. What your add´RESS. And the answer My ADDress is............. - polenta1, Sep 14, 2017
All verbs have the emphasis on the 2nd of 2 syllables - and ALL nouns on the 1st one.. - ian-hill, Sep 14, 2017
You too, amigo. :) - rac1, Sep 14, 2017
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As a speaker of American English, he is not here any more sounds perfectly natural to me. My spell checker wants to make it anymore. I am not an English grammar expert, details such as the presence or absence of a space are lost on me.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/any-more-or-anymore

Any more as an adverb

Any more is also an adverb and has the meaning of ‘no longer’ or ‘in the past but not now.’ In this meaning, we use it in end position:

We don’t go to Cornwall on holiday any more. (We used to go in the past but not now.) The cost of electricity is not cheap any more.

Especially in American English, any more, as an adverb, can be written as one word, anymore:

He doesn’t cycle anymore.

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by bosquederoble
posted by bosquederoble
looks pretty clear to me...I wonder why bigote said that ? - 006595c6, Sep 14, 2017
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From my Oxford dictionary.

She doesn’t live here anymore. / Ya no vive aquí.

She doesn’t live here any more. / Ya no vive aquí.

Both are adverbs.

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
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Hello!

These two links might be pertinent to this subject.

Hope this helps.

Regards!

UPDATE: Here's more from the British English section of Cambridge.

Any more is two words in British English, whilst anymore is one word in American English.

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by NKM1974
posted by NKM1974
I found these two threads , thanks NKM, but they don't really say that one is incorrect and the other one isn't - 006595c6, Sep 14, 2017
maybe you can find a clearer one...you are the man! - 006595c6, Sep 14, 2017
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There are many style sheets and grammar references that specify that "any more" refers to quantity and "anymore" to time.

Examples:
The soup does not need any more salt.
Camping isn't allowed here anymore.

A couple of online references:
writingexplained

grammerly

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by AnnRon
posted by AnnRon
The first one is the same link I gave. :) - bosquederoble, Sep 14, 2017
Keep in mind Heidita uses British English. :) - bosquederoble, Sep 14, 2017
Ah, yes, it is. Doesn't the Cambridge Dictionary purvey British English? - AnnRon, Sep 14, 2017
I think you are correct AnnRon :) - ian-hill, Sep 14, 2017
In the link they said: Especially in American English, any more, as an adverb, can be written as one word, anymore: - bosquederoble, Sep 14, 2017
That does not sound like a requirement in British English to me. As I noted in my post, my spellchecker tries to convert it. So it probably is the norm in American English. :) - bosquederoble, Sep 14, 2017
Is the link taking you to the same page I'm going to? That's not what it says on the page I'm looking at. I'll go back up and paste a quote in my post. - AnnRon, Sep 14, 2017
I take it back. It does say that below the part of the page I was reading. Sorry. - AnnRon, Sep 14, 2017
Apparently the Cambridge Dictionary site is angry with me for my mistake. Now the page I was looking at is blank. - AnnRon, Sep 14, 2017
To avoid causing any more (ha, ha) confusion than I already have, I've edited my first link. - AnnRon, Sep 14, 2017
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"Love Don't Live Here Anymore"

"You abandoned me Love don't live here anymore Just a vacancy Love don't live here anymore..."

- Rose Royce
updated Sep 14, 2017
posted by Gekkosan
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“Bah… bah..”, Don Bigote replies sheepishly. It seems that “any more” and “anymore” can be used with the same meaning of “any longer”. “Any Moor” is quite different. I distinctly remember my (our) teacher in elementary school teaching us that “any more” is not synonymous with “anymore”. She also taught us about “its” and “it’s”. It seems that she did not teach us correctly or that times have changed in these last fifty-five years or so.

And so I’ve learned something new. Thank you, SD, and especially Heidita, for first pointing it out to me.

updated Sep 14, 2017
posted by DonBigoteDeLaLancha
thank Y O U Bigote, we have all learnt something today :) - 006595c6, Sep 14, 2017
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I had intended to answer then saw bigote's contribution. I slightly prefer the answer with any longer but any more is an acceptable alternative. You can say 'he is no longer here' which is neater but slightly more formal.

Here is the Oxford Advanced Learners piece:

[OALD][1]

In the UK I use any more as an adverb and also for quantity eg Is there any more cake? In speech there is a change of emphasis to make the meaning clear. Americans use 'anymore' which is sometimes used here though I did see a video from an American teacher where she referred to it as any more so it must be optional. Here is a video

Any more, any longer

[1]: http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/any-more?q=Any mode

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by Mardle
posted by Mardle
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Hi everybody, thanks for posting, I guess Guillermo was just as surprised as I was when Bigote said what he did, especially considering that I respect him a lot, normally his answers are spot on, both in English and in Spanish.

I thought this could be right...no longer is less used I would guess than any more, but that any more might actually be wrong...that did surprise me.

I also liked the links you all supplied, very interesting the difference of spelling of any more to anymore in American English.

Once again, thanks to all of you for taking the time smile Bigote...see why I so often tell people on daily threads...hey, post a question on the forum....I have always found this the best way to learn and to confirm a doubt smile

updated Sep 14, 2017
posted by 006595c6
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Firstly I agree with Ann - Any more for quantity, anymore for time. That is the distinction I thought was historically / technically correct. When the Cambridge article says "anymore" as an adverb is more common in Am. Eng. that could be because in some cases Am. Eng has actually evolved less than Brit. Eng.

Secondly I agree with Bosque - Either usage to mean "no longer" is fine these days. If there ever was a set in stone distinction between "any more" and "anymore", when referring to time, I don't think it is set in stone any[ ]more.

Which means thirdly, I must agree with Wink, that language is always evolving.

The one thing I would add, is when you will see "anymore" used incorrectly, and that is when it is used to describe a quantity. In these cases I would never use "anymore," always "any more":

I don't want any more - I don't want anything else

I don't want anymore - I no longer want

The meaning of the first sentence could be ambiguous, of course smile

updated Sep 14, 2017
edited by jellonz
posted by jellonz