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Venga vrs Ven

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In the Lord's Prayer (Padre Nuestro) why is "Venga" used while the rest of it uses Tú? ("Venga a nosotros tu reino&quotwink I would assume that "ven" would be used.

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updated Aug 19, 2017
posted by Peter2514
welcome to the forum, :) - 006595c6, Aug 19, 2017

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Padre nuestro, que estás en los Cielos, santificado sea tu nombre, venga tu Reino, hágase tu voluntad así en la tierra como en el cielo. y perdónanos nuestras deudas así como nosotros perdonamos a nuestros deudores, y no nos dejes caer en la tentación, mas líbranos del mal.

Because Venga is not aimed at God, rather his rein, it is not really a command but the expression of a wish, as in Quiero que venga tu Reino, Deseo que venga tu Reino, etc. so it requires subjunctive. Why are not questioning hágase as well?

(Let it be) That your reign comes.

updated Aug 19, 2017
posted by bosquederoble
"reign" - "reino" - Gekkosan, Aug 18, 2017
Yes, I should have said Kingdom, I think that is what we say in English. :) - bosquederoble, Aug 18, 2017
Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done. :) - bosquederoble, Aug 18, 2017
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It's subjunctive meaning "que venga" It's like when you say "God save the Queen" and not "saves" because it's subjunctive and not simple present indicative.

updated Aug 19, 2017
posted by polenta1