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Hard to pronounce future tense

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I'm normally fine with pronunciations, but some verbs in the future tense really get me, especially when I'm talking fast. For example, words like "moriré", "viviré" I find incredibly hard to pronounce. I think it's because of the repeated 'ir' sound but I'm not sure. I was wondering if native speakers (despite their ability to pronounce words a lot better than me) would go for the "voy a morir/vivir" option, or do they just use the future tense no matter the pronunciation? Are these tricky words quite common in spoken spanish?

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updated Aug 17, 2017
posted by Quincyhopper
Hola amigo - rac1, Aug 17, 2017

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Hello Quincy,

Welcome to our Spanishdict community forum smile

I have quite often found that when people who are learning to speak Spanish are trying to pronounce Spanish sounds (phonemes) that they find difficult they tend to try too hard which means that they usually over emphasize them and this makes the sounds they make unnatural, a little like the distortion you notice when music is played too loudly! wink

The key is to relax and not aim for perfection straight away! When I have struggled to pronounce some words (the occasional word) in one of my Skype classes with my native Spanish teacher, she breaks down the constituent sounds of a word.

eg: demasiado = dey - mass - ee - ah -do

I used to experience difficulty with pronouncing the conditional indicative tense eg eg: preferiría until somebody observed that I struggled with pronouncing the r sound and advised me to try to aim for a soft d sound instead and now I have much less difficulty in pronouncing the r sound!

The advantage of learning to speak Spanish compared to English or French is that Spanish is a very phonetical language ...words are pronounced exactly as they are spelt following the Spanish way of pronouncing them of course ...unlike English and French which have many silent letters and some nasal sounds, respectively!

updated Aug 17, 2017
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
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we use the words no matter the pronunciation and is not really hard for us you may practice to pronounce the words with "ir" syllable by syllable

Hola Carlos, bienvenido al foro smile

Well, Quincy, for a native speaker this is not a hard pronunciation.

it all depends on how strong you are trying to pronounce the "r" . The r in moriré is like an insinuated sound, you are not supposed to roll the r .

Have a look at this interesting tool. You only have to write the word (don't forget the accents!) and then click on the green button.

pronounce Spanish

updated Aug 17, 2017
posted by 006595c6
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we use the words no matter the pronunciation and is not really hard for us you may practice to pronounce the words with "ir" syllable by syllable

updated Aug 17, 2017
posted by Carlos4511
welcome to the forum. if you are a fluent Spanish speaker it is helpful to add it to your profile page as when judging the quality of an answer a fluent speaker is better. I assume from your answer you are a native speaker as you wrote 'we use' - Mardle, Aug 17, 2017
The benefit of putting it on your profile [up to you how much or little you put] is next time you ask or answer a question anyone can look to see your language skill. - Mardle, Aug 17, 2017
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The only advantage that a native speaker enjoys is that he/she has had many, many hours of practice starting in early childhood when all sounds are a challenge. Have you ever noticed a two year old playing on the floor with his toys and muttering to him self? To those of us instructed in phonetics and scientific linguistics, this is "pattern practice."

There are many non-natives, who by means of inherent talent to recognize and reproduce sounds, such a many musicians can, or by means of incessant diligent practice, are able to attain native pronunciation or near native at least. One of my college professors, whose class I attended many years ago spoke perfectly pronounced Mexican Spanish. I was amazed to find out that he was born in Chicago, Illinois.

The reason for his success was that he continued to practice, and record himself, and to keep up the procedure until his musical ear was satisfied.

So what I am getting at is, DON'T avoid the difficult stuff, practice it until it gets easy.

I have to do the same when I'm learning a new piece for my guitar.

updated Aug 17, 2017
posted by Daniela2041
Excellent advice, amiga :) - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
I agree with you about a musical ear helping people to reproduce sounds more accurately enabling people to acquire better pronounciation and perhaps a more natural sounding accent - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
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I am not a native speaker and sometimes just use voy a as it is simple! However, I dont have a problem with the pronunciation of viviré etc. As you know to be understood it is important to put the stress in the correct place. Iré is less daunting try that until you are happy then add the other syllables.

updated Aug 17, 2017
posted by Mardle
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Your goal should not be to sound like a native speaker. You probably never will as 99.9% of non native speakers. You will always have an accent. There may be some exceptions but I still have to meet one.

Your goal should be to speak clearly enough to be understood and have a good conversation skill. With time and practice you will improve your pronunciation and you may get closer to a native sound, but a true native speaker (I'm talking about someone born and raised in a Spanish speaking country) will always know you are not one.

Daniela is saying she knew one person who did not have an accent. I never have and I believe I never will.

I been living in the middle of the Midwest for 16 years, hearing and speaking English most of the time (just a few Spanish speakers around) and I have an accent. Everybody understands me and I'm not worried about it .

updated Aug 17, 2017
edited by 00fac92a
posted by 00fac92a
I agree that we all have accents when we speak our native languages, Guillermo. When we learn to speak a new, second language our native language colours (or influences) our pronounciation of that new language. I believe that we may be able, with.. - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
considerable practice and skill, to develop an accent that is closer to a native accent than many or even most people from our country of origen, and mask, but not completely obscure that original accent from our mother tongue! - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
Native speakers of the language we are learning will amost certainly, with probably few exceptions, be able to discern that we are not native speakers! - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
I personally believe that developing good pronounciation is more important to a polyglot like myself who loves learning languages, especially Spanish and French :) - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017
Developing too strong an accent could be a hinderance and impede the natural acquisition of new languages! - FELIZ77, Aug 17, 2017