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¿necrológica u obituario?

¿necrológica u obituario?

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I like reading a good obituary. It tells a story and from a language learning point of view contains idioms, humour and some good descriptive words

Last week I read an obituary written by Rosa Montero about a journalist. The first thing I noticed was the phrase:

'Estoy escribiendo esta necrológica porque Malén me lo pidió'

In the UK the only times we see a similar word are in grisly murder reports mentioning necrofillia [extremely rare] or reports of people who have what is described in the red tops as 'the flesh eating disease' and in the broadsheets as ''necrotising fasciitis' so I was aware that necro is Greek to do with death, but I had never seen 'necrológica' before. I also thought I had seen 'notas de necrologia, when I first saw the article but I haven't been able to find it.

Here is the article if you want to read it

El País

I then looked for another one to compare. El Mundo has one which has the word, similar to the English, from Latin 'Obituario'

El Mundo

I looked it all up and found this useful article in Fundeu

Fundeu

Is necrológica and necrologia used in countries other than Spain? Is 'obituario' more usual? Would it be the case that the first use is in more formal settings?

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updated Aug 15, 2017
edited by Mardle
posted by Mardle
Pat, get a bottle of wine and put the tele on! Just reading that made my brain hurt lol ;) - billygoat, Aug 4, 2017
The only difference: necrológica is feminine and obituario is masculine. - NKM1974, Aug 4, 2017
In the headline it should be "u" and not "o" - polenta1, Aug 4, 2017
Thanks I always forget that one. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
Hi Billy I usually look these things up and leave it, but thought others may be interested. I didn't see your note til now and a bottle of wine for brekkie seems over the top. I'll just have a cuppa. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017

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En los periódicos de mi país se llama la sección necrológica.
Pienso que casi todo el mundo entiende la palabra obituario pero no es muy usada.
Ambas son palabras formales. Los llamamos "avisos necrológicos" o "avisos fúnebres"

En películas he visto que los americanos hacen lo que llaman "eulogy". Aquí no es común usar esta palabra que traducida sería "elogio" o "panegírico". Más bien se dice:

Pedro dijo unas palabras.
Pedro hizo un pequeño discurso alusivo.

La palabra "esquela " es usada pero jamás con este significado fúnebre. Lo usamos con el significado de una nota o carta no muy larga.

updated Aug 12, 2017
posted by polenta1
In the UK a eulogy is something said at a funeral by a friend or close family member talking about the life and achievements of the dead person. Earl Spencer gave the eulogy at his sister Diana, Princess of Wales funeral. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
We have death announcements and occasionally funeral notices, but usually the notific - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
Original notice notes the death and funeral time. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
Only one person gives the eulogy anyone else who speaks at the funeral is described as saying a few words. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
I see . Similar to American films. - polenta1, Aug 5, 2017
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It sounds a lot like the other word that we use for obituary in the US, and that is "Death Notice"

updated Aug 5, 2017
posted by Echoline
They use esquela for a death notice, at least they do in Spain. - Mardle, Aug 4, 2017
Mardle, It's incredible. We use the word "esquela" for a short letter or a note. - polenta1, Aug 4, 2017
In the UK we call them death announcements. I have looked it up and it is also called sequels mortuoria. Another new word for me. The meaning of small note is also mentioned. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
My autocorrect mucks up my comments. Should be esquela mortuoria. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
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La sección de los periódicos donde se dan noticias sobre las personas fallecidas son generalmente llamadas "necrológicas".
Creo que la mayor parte de la gente entiende la palabra "obituario" pero no es tan usada en mi país por lo menos.

Both necrológico and obituario are formal words.

One other thing that we don't have here at least, and I often see in movies is what they call "eulogy" when somebody dies. I know they translate it as "panegírico" or "elogio-" but we don't have them or call them "elogio" in a burial. We could eventually say :

Pedro dijo unas palabras alusivas.
Pedro dijo un pequeño discurso.
etc.

updated Aug 15, 2017
posted by polenta1
the Spanish word is like the English one panegyric. However, it is rarely used. Eulogy in connecton with a funeral is the appropriate word. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
People are asked to say a few words at a funeral but there is usually only one eulogy. If there is a funeral mass it is discouraged. At my mother's cremation the priest said some things about her from information we gave and I read a poem she liked - Mardle, Aug 15, 2017
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Not to answer, but a link:

http://www.fundeu.es/recomendacion/necrologica/

Los términos esquela, necrología, necrológica y obituario no significan lo mismo.

No siempre se usan con propiedad estas cuatro palabras, pues sus respectivos significados no están claros para todos los hispanohablantes, y se trata de voces que aparecen como título de la sección que hay en muchos periódicos para informar sobre los fallecimientos de personas conocidas.

El nombre más adecuado para esa sección es obituario, pues según el Diccionario académico es la ‘sección necrológica de un periódico’.

También es correcto referirse a ella como necrologías, ya que esa palabra define las ‘noticias comentadas acerca de una persona muerta hace poco tiempo’.

En cuanto a necrológica, se trata de un adjetivo con el que se califica a lo relacionado con la necrología, aunque la vigesimotercera edición del Diccionario académico también recoge esta voz como sustantivo con el significado de ‘nota o artículo necrológicos’.

Finalmente, las esquelas son los avisos de la muerte de una persona que se publican en los periódicos con recuadro de luto, en los que se suele indicar la fecha y el lugar del entierro, funeral, etc.

updated Aug 5, 2017
posted by bosquederoble
I had read that and the link was in my question labeled fundeu - but thanks. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017
Oh,, sorry. :) - bosquederoble, Aug 5, 2017
No need to apologise In sure others have found your setting it out very useful. - Mardle, Aug 5, 2017