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We all learn elementary math at school. It is said that we count and calculate in our mother tongue or the language we were taught math in.

This may sound weird but I'm sure that not even in other Spanish speaking countries they were taught the way I was. Imagine how this would be expressed in English!!!

   15  
   x  8  
-----------  
     120    

This is how I was taught

Cinco por ocho cuarenta. Cero (meaning escribo o pongo cero) y me llevo cuatro.
Ocho por uno ocho más cuatro que me llevaba doce.

Total 12 (doce) 0 (cero)
Total 120

Do you do it in the same way? I'd never be able to know how to say all these calculations in English.

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updated Jul 29, 2017
posted by polenta1
12 multiple of 10 is 120 not 0. - NKM1974, Jul 28, 2017
No she is explaining the way she was taught to work it out a group of 12 + zero equals 120 - Mardle, Jul 28, 2017
We used the word times ( multiplied by) for which you have used por. - Mardle, Jul 28, 2017

6 Answers

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Eight times five equals forty. Put down the zero in the ones' place and carry the four. Eight times one equals eight plus the four that was carried equals twelve. Put down the two in the tens' place and the one in the hundreds' place. Answer: 120.

updated Jul 29, 2017
posted by AnnRon
Incredible! It seems to me it's the same they taught me but in English. Am I right? - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
Put down is what we would say escribo or nothing. And you use carry for what we say "me llevo". It's quite the same. I'm surprised. - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
It seems very much the same to me. Thanks for the best-answer vote. - AnnRon, Jul 29, 2017
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Polenta:

It's been over 50 years since I said the words, but I remember the following, very close to your words.

Eight times five is forty. Write down zero and carry the four. Eight times one is eight, add the four to get twelve. Total is one hundred twenty.

Another way, combining a little mental math.

Four times thirty is one hundred twenty.

Nowadays, if I was teaching someone:

Take out your calculator, we're going to do (or multiply) five times fifteen. Hit the five, then hit the X, now enter fifteen and press equal and you get one hundred twenty.

This reminds my of Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies. He used to practice his gazintas.

Two gazinta ten five times. Six gazinta twelve twice. smile

updated Jul 29, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen
We didn't have calculators when I was a kid. lol Thanks DilDen - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
The problem with the "new" was is that kids have absolutely no idea of how numbers "work". If they made a mistake and typed in 150 x 8 instead of 15 x 8 and got 1200 they would have no idea that 15 x 8 is not 1200 - Echoline, Jul 28, 2017
typo...the "new" way - Echoline, Jul 28, 2017
In Thailand/India/China/Japan, math is taught by using the abacus instead of a calculator. Math is emphasize & essential in that part of the world because when these pupils become adults, they need to handle their own finances than pay a financial planner - NKM1974, Jul 29, 2017
Those are really the countries of the future, aren't they? They work a lot. - polenta1, Jul 29, 2017
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In the UK we call it maths. I was taught your way

15

x8

5 x 8 equals 40. Put the nought under the 5 and carry the 4 under the tens. 8 x 1 equals 8, add to the 4 equals 12. Put the 2 in the tens column and the 1 in the hundreds.

They introduced new maths later and it may be younger people have been taught differently. In fact we had a teacher who said we should be able to say our tables up to 20 so that would have been easy. Nowadays maths teachers would probably say zero not nought.

When I was a young child a £ had 240 pennies and there were twelve pennies in a shilling. So 120 would have been ten shillings! Decimal coinage made it much easier.

Now as a mental arithmetic exercise I would say 10 x 15 equals 150 take away (subtract) 2 X 15 which is 30.

However, though I passed my school exam in Maths and worked out double entry bookkeeping and taxes on an estate, I am not as numerate as some here.

updated Jul 29, 2017
edited by Mardle
posted by Mardle
Pretty avatar. :) - rac1, Jul 28, 2017
Thank you. My name on the other forum was saffron/ azafrán. - Mardle, Jul 28, 2017
Sorry Maths for you. Math for US. - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
Thanks for your coopaeration. After all it was not that different. - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
We learned the decimal system and the ounces, pounds, pennies, shiillings etc make me go mad. It's difficult. - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
@polenta, maths is not your strong subject. Am I correct? - NKM1974, Jul 28, 2017
Pounds and ounces are described as the Imperial system - Mardle, Jul 29, 2017
I adored math(s) at school but not geometry. I used to be a bookkeeper and liked numbers. And guess what? I like sudoky and griddler - polenta1, Jul 29, 2017
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"8 * 15"

En la mente multiplico 8 * 5=40. Lo recuerdo. Entonces 8*10=80. Lo recuerdo. Entonces 40+80=120

Otro truco en el caso de dos números que terminan en "5" si son iguales (1515, 2525, 35*35, etc.).

Multiplique la columna de los 10. por ese dígito + 1 y pega "25" al fin.

1515 = 1 * 2 + "25"=225 2525 = 2 * 3 + "25"=625 3535 = 3 * 4 + "25"=1.225 4545 = 4 * 5 + "25"=2.025 .... 9595 = 9 * 10 + "25"=9.9025 ..... 205205=20 *21 + "25"=42.025

updated Jul 28, 2017
edited by DonBigoteDeLaLancha
posted by DonBigoteDeLaLancha
Está bárbaro lo que tú dices Bigote pero yo quería saber cómo lo decían en inglés y ya veo que es parecido. Gracias por tu respuesta. - polenta1, Jul 28, 2017
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I remember it as the "rule of 9's". I can't remember exactly how it works. 50+ years ago, my Gosh! What little that I do remember is that any number, regardless of length is always divisible by 9 if the individual digits add up to 9.

1.234=10=1 No 16.589.745.877=67=13=4 No 1,683=18=9 Sí 18=9 Sí 2.017=10=1 No 2.016=9 Sí 91101=12=3 No

Etc.

updated Jul 29, 2017
posted by DonBigoteDeLaLancha
Rule of 9's. That helps me a lot Bigote. Can you believe I still use the rule of 9'S? - polenta1, Jul 29, 2017
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When I was a kid after learning the multiplication tables ( only up to ten) we were taught multiplications of two, three or more digits. Later we were taught what they called "la prueba del nueve"

I can't draw it here but it's like a very big X and we had to calculate four numbers that were written on top of the X , at the bottom of the X and on both sides of the X. These latter ones should be identical. This meant the calculation was ok. We checked the multiplication through this "prueba del nueve". Of course we couldn't check with calculators because they didn't exist.

Now I ask young people and they don't know what I'm talking about. Has anyone studied this "prueba del nueve"? And how is it called in English?

updated Jul 28, 2017
posted by polenta1