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Tú tranquilo, averiguamos la fecha y te llamamo.

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I have these sentencese:

Tú tranquilo, averiguamos la fecha y te llamamo. (Calm down, we find out the date and we call you.- it's correct i hope.)

Averiguamos la fecha y Pedro la llamó.

How would you transalte the second sentence? Especially la llamó.

I have also second question:

...allí la función de la capital la comparten dos ciudades...- is the la before comparten necessary?

Thanks for responses

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updated Jul 17, 2017
edited by 006595c6
posted by Daniel5841
Hi daniel, have a look at the change of title, it will help you te get more and more precise answers :) - 006595c6, Jul 16, 2017
"Calm down. When we find out the date we will call you" - rac1, Jul 16, 2017

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Averiguamos la fecha y Pedro la llamó.

this is weird.

We will find out the date and Pedro will call her. (??)

is this sentence related to the first one? Odd.

updated Jul 17, 2017
posted by 006595c6
i got them in excersise. The point of the excerse is to find out wheter it's present or past, which is not problem. Translation is problem here for me. I hate when i can't translate a sentence. - Daniel5841, Jul 16, 2017
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My responses:

1 Why on Earth is "tú tranquilo" calm yourself. I would have said tranquilízate. I am not doubting the usage, I just wonder what the grammar is. Never mind, as I do a little research it is simply the noun **adjective being used as an interjection**. I think it would be better with a comma between tú and tranquilo:

Tranquilo, amigo.Calm down, buddy.

2 averiguamos la fecha y te llamamo---- Shouldn't that be llamamos. I think this is present being used to refer to near future- we will find out the date and call you.

3 Averiguamos la fecha y Pedro la llamó. I do not understand Heiditas translation, I would take this as a different sentence in the past- we found out the date and Pedro called her. The present and past forms of nosotros can be the same. llamó is clearly past to my understanding.

4 ...allí la función de la capital la comparten dos ciudades...- is the la before comparten necessary? Absolutely, if an object (actual noun, not pronoun) follows the verb, you generally do not include the pronoun if it is direct (although you can) and generally do if it is indirect (although technically not required). But any object (noun) that comes before the verb must be marked by an object pronoun, whether it be direct or indirect. No exceptions.

María tiene la manzana.

La manzana la tiene María. The la tells you María is the subject and la manzana is the object, otherwise you could think the apple has María.

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updated Jul 17, 2017
edited by bosquederoble
posted by bosquederoble
Bosque. I think we came to exactly the same conclusions. Nice job :) (for agreeing with me) :>) - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
Yep, it is nice being in agreement. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
Bosque, I think you meant to say adjective instead of noun La tranquilidad is the noun form. - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
yes, sorry. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
Sort of an implicit (be) calm. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
Thanks for finding the tranquilo think. I just assumed it was wrong, but I see know in the SD dictionary that it isn't I fixed my post accordingly. You're the best. :) - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
Bosque...no need in a case like this in my opinion to use the correction technique in the English. Up to you though of course. I'm talking about the noun/adjective thing. - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
I like to take ownership of all my errors. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
Even when they are dumb, from a moment of inattention. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
I notice that many people "fix" comments by adding another comment. If I make a comment with an error I usually copy it, delete it, re-input it and edit it unless there are comments after it which could make the order confusing. :) - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
And I don't usually worry about fixing obvious typos in comments. For example...I meant thing instead of think in a comment above. :) - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
I mean "I see now" instead of "I see know" Man, I've really go to improve my typing!! ") - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
Actually I do fix obvious typos in comments, most of the time, but only when I can use the copy, delete, paste, edit technique I described above. If there are already comments to my comments....that's when I don't comment about obvious typos. :) - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
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Daniel:

I agree with Bosque that the "la" is necessary. I will explain a little more why it is.

Typical English sentence structure is SVO - subject - verb - object.

This is also by far the most common for simple Spanish sentences.

However. OVS - object - verb - subject is also permitted.

When OVS is used, you have to do this: Object - Object Pronoun - Verb - Subject

The purpose of the pronoun is to alert the listener that the subject is still coming or to avoid ambiguity or nonsense.

El barco pintó el hombre.

The boat painted the man. ?????? smile

El barco lo pintó el hombre.

The man painted the boat.

The closest English construction to flip the order of the subject and object would be something like this:

The boat? The man painted it.

OR by using the passive voice:

The boat was painted by the man.

The passive also exists (in two forms) in Spanish but the Spanish passive isn't used as much, probably because Spanish allows the active voice to be used in OVS order like we have here.

updated Jul 17, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen
Yes, that is my understanding. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
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Tú tranquilo, averiguamos la fecha y te llamamo. (Calm down, we find out the date and we call you.- it's correct i hope.) Averiguamos la fecha y Pedro la llamó.

I could be wrong, but if you took the first sentence from a book, I think there is an error in the book or you mistyped. I think it should be.

Tú, tranquilo, averiguamos la fecha y te llamamos.

Relax Don't worry, we'll figure out the date and we'll call you.

The person isn't really worried, you just use this little phrase to help give assurance that what you are promising is going to happen. You will definitely call the person back.

It is much more common to say ¡Tranquilízate!
Heidita says this is not true, they are not used interchangeably.
I understand why, I think. You would only use this in an emphatic way if someone really is upset or worried. It isn't like the much softer "tú tranquilo"

Here, the present tense of llamar is used with a future meaning. This is very common in Spanish. Much more so than in English, although we do use present with a future meaning for some things. I go to Chicago tomorrow, then I go to Dallas and I'll be home on Wednesday. Only the last verb here was future tense and the two present tense "go's" sounded OK, right?

Averiguamos la fecha y Pedro la llamó.

We figured out the date and Pedro called her.

Here, averiguar is being used in the preterite. -AR verbs are the same in the present and preterite for nosotros. You can generally figure out past vs. present from context. Here, since llamó is in the preterite the first verb only makes sense if it is also preterite.

Hope this helps. smile

updated Jul 17, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen
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Tú, tranquilo, averiguamos la fecha y te llamamos.

Relax, we'll figure out the date and we'll call you.

Here, tranquilo, which is normally an adjective is being used as an interjection.

It is much more common to say ¡Tranquilízate!

Ken, this is not the case.

Tú tranquilo : don't worry

tranquilizate: calm down.

The meaning is completely different and they are not interchangeable.

updated Jul 17, 2017
posted by 006595c6
Thanks Heidita. I'll take your word for it :) Our SD dictionary has calm down, don't worry and relax as 3 meanings of tranquilo as an interjection. - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
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Daniel, I did not realize that they were independent sentences and you couldn't figure out the translation. I thought this was a message you had received.

This info:

i got them in excersise. The point of the excerse is to find out wheter it's present or past, which is not problem. Translation is problem here for me. I hate when i can't translate a sentence.

...would have been really useful right at the beginning. I was just guessing and thought averiguamos was present tense and llamó a mistake. Made no sense , obviously.

updated Jul 17, 2017
posted by 006595c6
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"Calm down. We'll find out the date and I"ll call you." It appears that the write may have included an extra "am". TYPO!

updated Jul 17, 2017
posted by DonBigoteDeLaLancha
Don. I agree, either an extra "am" or a missing S on the end. We'll call you. - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
Yes that is the other possiblity. :) - bosquederoble, Jul 16, 2017
calm down is not the correct translation - 006595c6, Jul 16, 2017
I wrote an explanation of why I think Heidita says it doesn't mean "calm down" as an additional answer in this thread. I agree with her. - DilKen, Jul 17, 2017
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HI ken,

Our SD dictionary has calm down, don't worry and relax as 3 meanings of tranquilo as an interjection

This is not "tranqilo" it is "tú tranquilo" , not the same thing.

"tú tranquilo" can mean relax or don't worry, but not calm down.

updated Jul 17, 2017
posted by 006595c6
Very interesting. Is this sort of thing done with any other adjectives? It is obviously (I think) not using the positive imperative. - DilKen, Jul 16, 2017
I think I understand this now. I wrote another answer here, explaining my thinking. Please let me know if I've "got it" now :) - DilKen, Jul 17, 2017
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At first when I read Heidita's corrections I was sort of confused. She said:

"tú tranquilo" can mean relax or don't worry, but not calm down.

I thought: but we use relax, calm down and don't worry interchangeably, at least in the U.S Midwest where I live.

I decided to read a bunch of sentences on context.reverso.net with "tú tranquilo" to see if I could figure out what she meant. I'll explain what I think I learned. smile Hopefully Heidita or some other natives can either tell me "yeah...I think you've got it now" or "not exactly...it's more like..." Anyway here goes with my explanation.

Typically if someone really appears upset, we can use relax, calm down or don't worry interchangeably. We also might use them quite emphatically.

However, if they are not upset and we just want to assure them that we're going to do something for them we might say: Don't worry, I'll call you back as soon as I can. We wouldn't say "calm down." We might say "relax" with a soft tone, but we wouldn't say Relax! as if it were a command. Another little phrase we often use in this soft manner is Don't worry about it... your package should arrive within two days. Again, the person isn't really worried or hysterical, the "Don't worry (about it)" is just a polite way of giving assurance.

That's the meaning I got from most of the sentences that I read that started with "Tú tranquilo" No one was upset. There was no crisis.

It's really a lot like saying "rest assured... " "you can depend on..." "have no fear" etc.

I think that is why Heidi said that "tú tranquilo" (without any exclamation points) should not be translated as "calm down." and is best translated as "don't worry" (about it).

updated Jul 17, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen