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How would you translate " the man has been swimming in the river all day?" Is it : El hombre ha estado nadando en el río? Or El hombre ha sido nadado en el río?

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updated Jul 3, 2017
posted by David1244
welcome to the forum, :) - 006595c6, Jul 3, 2017

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Hola David:

Strange as it may seem, I think the most common way to say this is:

El hombre lleva todo el dia nadando en el río.

This is an idiomatic use of llevar which is usually translated as "has been."

I suggest you study the SD dictionary entry for llevar. Do a word search on the page for "been" and you will see several more examples of this usage.

Llevar normally means "to take" To help this to make sense to me in English, when I first learned about I used to think:

The man is taking all day to swim in the lake. After awhile it wasn't necessary to do the mental gymnastics. This is actually quite a nice little feature of Spanish, to substitute a single word, where sometimes two or three are necessary in English. Similar constructions can be built with hacer, hacer que, desde hace, etc.

There are comparable uses of llevaba, ha llevado, etc. for the other tenses.

As Guillermo points our, some people will use he estado + gerundio. Estar and not ser is used with the gerundio for continuous ongoing actions.

updated Jul 3, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen
Muchas gracias - David1244, Jul 2, 2017
Yes, Ken my native Spanish teacher from Spain encourages me to use this colloquial and idiomatic construction using the verb llevar :) - FELIZ77, Jul 2, 2017
Feliz: Yeah, I like it. It can be used many, many other ways than just with the gerundio. - DilKen, Jul 2, 2017
In Spain, they use haber/estar gerund endings of -do/-ndo. I saw this mostly on internet videos from that country. - NKM1974, Jul 2, 2017
NKM: I've seen many Spanish lessons from Spaniards who advocate the use of llevar + gerundio for actions that have been taking place until the current time. - DilKen, Jul 2, 2017
He's one example. https://youtu.be/NNmp59OUiDo?list=PLi6BWC_8FZSCGLtE0VD2xUWuqbFTvXzxS - DilKen, Jul 2, 2017
I should have said: Either llevar or hace que, desde hace, etc. (also tardar & durar) - DilKen, Jul 2, 2017
@DilKen, that link you posted from María Ortega García has great lessons & majority of them are Peninsular Spanish. - NKM1974, Jul 3, 2017
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First one. "El hombre ha estado nadando en el río". The second one is totally incorrect.

I just punched it in the translator and surprisingly 2 out of the 3 are incorrect. .Only PROMT gives you the right translation.

updated Jul 3, 2017
posted by 00fac92a
Thanks. Just shows you can't trust those online translators 100%! - David1244, Jul 2, 2017
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In terms of llevar + gerundio vs haber estado + gerundio I like the link below. Here's a portion of it. Or course, this is one Spanish speaker's opinion, but I have heard it from several others. However, I have noticed sometimes that what one person says is wrong or, "that isn't Spanish" is perfectly acceptable to other fluent Spanish speakers. Often this is due to regional differences, and in some cases can be traced back to U.S. or English influence on the Spanish language.

Una breve recomendación. A veces en clase un estudiante dice algo así: “he estado viviendo en Silver Spring por ocho años”. Estas construcciones con tiempos progresivos son raras en español. Uno se percata (se da cuenta, adivina, comprende) inmediatamente que es una traducción literal del inglés y, la verdad, no funciona. Las dos maneras correctas y coloquiales de decir esto son las que hemos visto: hace ocho años que vivo en Silver Spring / Llevo ocho años viviendo en Silver Spring. Prometo escribir algún día un artículo sobre estas formas progresivas o continuas en español, sobre cuándo son admisibles y cuándo no.

expressing time periods in Spanish

updated Jul 3, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by DilKen
Thanks for your help - David1244, Jul 3, 2017