Espero disculpes mi corrección

Question

https://books.google.com.uy/books?id=Uy4n9MzmDJQC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=esperamos sepan comprender&source=bl&ots=r7-yUyjexa&sig=nYm2zg2K8LXu0z7fSCoYQbPd1rs&hl=es&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBkcv6utjTAhVDh5AKHZN6AvoQ6AEIRDAH#v=onepage&q=esperamos sepan comprender&f=false

I know subjunctive is very hard and that people are taught

Espero QUE disculpes ......................

When I answered a Spanishdict member I omitted the QUE and wrote "espero disculpes..........." without QUE . He kindly called my attention to this and I couldn't answer what had happened. The only thing I knew was that it sounded natural to me without any explanation. The above address could give some ideas about it. Of course it's very advanced grammar but maybe Daniela or some of the others who know Spanish grammar could get some ideas from it and maybe explain if the absence of QUE could be right. I really don't want to mislead anybody.

[1]: https://books.google.com.uy/books?id=Uy4n9MzmDJQC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=esperamos sepan comprender&source=bl&ots=r7-yUyjexa&sig=nYm2zg2K8LXu0z7fSCoYQbPd1rs&hl=es&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBkcv6utjTAhVDh5AKHZN6AvoQ6AEIRDAH

I tried to fix the link, but couldn't, sorry. - rac1, May 5, 2017

Your question is very refreshing. You are a native speaker, but you are not afraid to ask another native speaker if you missed something. Great attitude! We trust you. :) - rac1, May 5, 2017

Thanks rac it seems the book I took it from is "Fundamentos de Sintaxis Formal" by Ignacio Bosque and Javier Gutiérrez-Rexach - polenta1, May 5, 2017

it's page 195 - polenta1, May 5, 2017

De nada amigo :) - rac1, May 5, 2017

Answer 1

Ruben Fuentes, from Gusmán, Jalisco, wrote the song "La Bikina" in the mid 1960s with one verse "No permite la quieran consolar", so appearantly omitting the que was done back then, but I always thought it was simply to fit this one verse into a measure of music and I never heard this type of sentence structure ever again.

Even if there is some hidden grammer rule allowing this, it´s certainly very uncommon to speak this way, although it may be a regionalism.

I agree - 000a35ff, May 5, 2017

Answer 2

Espero "que" + subjunctive is considered "proper" However, "Espero without "que" is becoming quite popular.

It is similar to "Juego al baloncesto." This is what is taught in ALL the textbooks, but ALL of my native speaker Spanish students omit "al". It may be a Mexican thing. All my native speakers are either Mexicans, or Californians of Mexican descent.

Es una clara influencia del inglés to play football - 000a35ff, May 5, 2017

Answer 3

Según la R.A.E.

Cuando significa ‘tener esperanza [en que algo suceda] o creer que sucederá’, es transitivo y va seguido de un infinitivo o de una oración introducida por que: «Espero llegar a vieja sin arrugas» (Allende Eva [Chile 1987]); «Espero que todo te vaya bien» (Gala Invitados [Esp. 2002]

Thank you, amigo. :) - rac1, May 5, 2017

gracias, entonces existe. Me alegra mucho que sea posible. - polenta1, May 5, 2017

Lamento no saber vasco. jaja - polenta1, May 5, 2017

¿Explica eso «Espero disculpes»? «Espero disculpes» no es [«espero» + [infinitivo] ni [«espero» + oracion con «que»]. - jtaniel, May 5, 2017

Seguido de un infinitivo si. "Espero tener suerte". Pero introduciendo una oración debe llevar "que" "espero /deseo que (tu) tengas suerte."espero/deseo que (tu) disculpes la intromisión ". Lamento no saber inglés :( - 000a35ff, May 5, 2017

Aunque en honor a la verdad si que lo he visto escrito en documentos cuando pretenden ser muy formales como por ejemplo: "Deseo sea de su interés el presente informe" en lugar de espero que le/te venga bien éste informe" - 000a35ff, May 5, 2017

Answer 4

Here is what Butt & Benjamin say in A New Reference Grammar of Modern Spanish (2011)

23.4.6 Omission of conjunction que

Que is occasionally omitted, but much less often that the English 'that'

(a) if the following verb is in the subjunctive, and especially with the verb rogar que (to request). This construction is practically confined to business letters and other official language, but it it also found in sub-standard language. Foreigners should probably avoid it.

Then they have three example sentences which begin (1) Les ruego envién..., (2) No importa le tilden de bufón and (3) Solicitan se les solucione la deuda que ....

(b) In relative clauses introduced by que so as to avoid excessive use of que. This is probably confined to written language.

Just passing on what I read. I have almost no personal experience with the topic.