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Question

When using "se" in passive way we get se plus the verb in the begining of the sentence, aren't we ?

So, is it OK of the object comes first and then "se" plus the verb ?

Like se compró la leche. is it equal la leche se compró ????

Plz Help me!

yes - 000a35ff, Apr 30, 2017

and it is usual responder with this order. al final se vendió el burro?. Si el burro se vendió. - 000a35ff, Apr 30, 2017

You should say: don't we, not aren't we in this case. - DilKen, Apr 30, 2017

So the two sentences I wrote is correct ? And which is more common ? - Ahmed1010, Apr 30, 2017

Yes, both correct. More common is "Se compró la leche." - jtaniel, Apr 30, 2017

And does "se" come sometimes with the meaning of get plus PP ? - Ahmed1010, Apr 30, 2017

I'll answer your latest question about "get plus PP" in a separate post below - DilKen, May 1, 2017

Answer 1

I found this on Lengalia.com They are from Spain.

• El CD puede ir delante o detrás del verbo.
  Se firmó el contrato.
  El contrato se firmó.

The contract was signed.

Formal passive would be:

El contrato fue firmado.

After the formal passive you can put the agent, but not with the se passive.

El contrato fue firmado por el gerente.

El contrato se firmó por el gerente.

Answer 2

Ahmed1010:

You aksed: And does "se" come sometimes with the meaning of get plus PP ?

First of all, I think what you mean is "could an English translation of a sentence with se passive / passive reflexive" ever use get plus PP?" (Keeping in mind that nothing in English "comes with" anything in Spanish or vice-versa.)

Sure why not?

Using your original sentence:

se compró la leche

The milk was bought = the milk got bought = the milk has been bought. They basically mean the same thing.

Unlike for formal passive in Spanish, where "ser" is used, there is no "passive verb" utilized in Spanish with se passive. The focus in Spanish is on the result or state. Since you can't do this in English without using some other verb you can choose whatever verb you want that retains the same meaning ...usually some form of "to be"

la leche se compra cada sábado ~ la leche es comprado cada sábado

The milk is bought every Saturday.

The milk gets bought every Saturday.

Does this help? Perhaps you're thinking of something else, in which case you will need to be more specific with your question. Ask a new question if you want or just comment below.

So what is the translation of a sentence like : He gets (is) annoyed or He (gets) is bored ? How are they translated in Spanish ? -

se enfada, se enoja

He gets annoyed or he gets angry

está abburido

he is bored

se abbure

he gets bored

None of these are se passive / passive reflexive

They are just using the pronominal form (aka passive) of the verbs

You can also use ponerse + past participle for this meening of get / got which has the further connotation that he started to get + PP/adjective. See dictionary entry for poner / ponerse

So what is the translation of a sentence like : He gets (is) annoyed or He (gets) is bored ? How are they translated in Spanish ? - Ahmed1010, May 1, 2017

Try using the translator on the SD homepage. See what it comes back with. Then consult the dictionary for the verbs and adjectives used by the translator to see if you can find further info / confirmation. - DilKen, May 1, 2017

This time I answered your question as an addition to my post. Please vote for answers if you like them. - DilKen, May 1, 2017