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En el trabajo

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I frequently review the etymology when learning new words, but yet to find a resource that helps me understand sentence structure. I'm currently using Rosetta Stone and the answers are obvious, but the reason is left up to me to find out.

When someone is going to work, we say "Él va a trabajar." This makes sense. He goes to work. But when they are at work we say, "Él está en el trabajo." Why do we say He is at the work? Thanks!!

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updated Apr 13, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by TonyOrtiz
Welcome to SpanishDict. - rac1, Apr 13, 2017

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Trabajar is the verb to work

Él va a trabajar- he is going to work. I believe it is also possible to say Él va al trabajo, as well, using the noun, but note I still use the article.

Trabajo- noun for work, job.

Él está en el trabajo. He is at work. But we could say he is on the job. He is at his job.

Why do I use no article for work, but need something for job. I can't answer that any more than why it sounds better to include it with trabajo. It's just how I hear it.

Things are just most naturally said certain ways in one language, that may be different in the other. I think the point of Rosetta is to expose you to natural phrasing without trying to have a preconception about how something is phrased in English. Often native Spanish speakers will say that doesn't sound like Spanish it sounds like a word for word translation of English. Don't try to phrase things the way we do in English, learn how it is done in Spanish.

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updated Apr 13, 2017
edited by DilKen
posted by bosquederoble
:) - Daniela2041, Apr 13, 2017
This is great - thank you! - TonyOrtiz, Apr 13, 2017
De nada. :) - bosquederoble, Apr 13, 2017
Thanks, Daniela. :) - bosquederoble, Apr 13, 2017
Bosque: you had trabar, which I changed to trabajar for you. - DilKen, Apr 13, 2017
Thanks, Ken, I am prone to typos. :) - bosquederoble, Apr 13, 2017
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About the matter of trabajo: To indicate that someone will go to the place of employment, we say "Va al trabajo / al despacho / al taller" because "Va a trabajar" means he is going to start the action of working, which could be anything happening anywhere. This could mean the work place, but it´s not always clear.

updated Apr 13, 2017
edited by 005faa61
posted by 005faa61
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We almost always use "the" in English with this construction.

He is at the restaurant. He is at the park. He is at the movies. He is at the theater. He is at the mall and hundreds or thousands more.

At work, at school, at home are in fact "exceptions" in English. There are very, very few that don't take "the".

Spanish, on the contrary, follows the rule.

updated Apr 13, 2017
edited by polenta1
posted by polenta1
Ah, that actually makes a lot of sense!! Thank you. - TonyOrtiz, Apr 13, 2017
Very good point Polenta. I hadn't thought of that, but now that you say it, I think you're right. - DilKen, Apr 13, 2017
Yes there are things you don't study about your native language, because they are instinct, that when you are a learner you have to learn. :) - bosquederoble, Apr 13, 2017
Yes, Bosque, it;'s funny. I'm sure I learned 10 times more English grammar since I started learning Spanish than I knew before...except for "knowing how to talk right" big grin:) - DilKen, Apr 13, 2017
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Both Spanish and French use the definite article much more than English does. It's just part of the difference in structure. There are tremendous differences in grammar--word position, use of articles, direct, indirect, and reflexive pronouns. Then there is Russian--a language that doesn't use articles. It is a problem.

Here's a link to a good teaching on the use of the definite article in Spanish that may help you at least a little.

Using the Definite Article in Spanish

updated Apr 13, 2017
posted by Daniela2041
Thank you for the link Daniela! - TonyOrtiz, Apr 13, 2017