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Test answers - Why the subjunctive?

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I've just done the tests listed by Kiwi-girl here. In one of them I got three questions wrong because I used the indicative instead of the subjunctive. I've listed them below along with my translations. Can someone explain why the subjunctive is required in these cases?

Cuando vuelva de mi viaje, te llamaré - When I return from my trip I will call you

No he visto a nadie que lleve abrigo hoy, no hace frío - I have not seen anybody wearing a coat today, it is not cold

Tan pronto como sepa algo de él, te avisaré - As soon as I know something about him I will tell you

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updated Oct 27, 2016
posted by jellonz

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Read these two sections (seriously go the the main Spanish 2 Jehle page and read everything he wrote):

http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/courses/subjadj.htm

The rule: In Spanish, the subjunctive is used in an adjectival clause when the antecedent is indefinite or unknown or is nonexistent or negated; in contrast, the indicative is used when the antecedent is a definite or existing one.

http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/courses/SUBJADV.HTM

Adverbial conjunctions of time:

The following adverbial conjunctions deal with time, and are followed by the subjunctive when they introduce an anticipated situation.

(list includes cuando and tan pronto como).

Anticipated situations do not include habitual ones- cuando to mean every time (in the past and carrying through to the future even though it is not yet happened) is still in indicative.

Everytime I go to school- indicative

Tomorrow when I go to school- subjunctive

so:

Cuando vuelva de mi viaje, te llamaré - When I return from my trip I will call you--- anticipated situation

No he visto a nadie que lleve abrigo hoy, no hace frío - I have not seen anybody wearing a coat today, it is not cold - nonexistent person.

Tan pronto como sepa algo de él, te avisaré - As soon as I know something about him I will tell you- anticipated situation.

I can expound more if necessary.

updated Oct 26, 2016
edited by bosquederoble
posted by bosquederoble
For "anticipated situations," see also http://www.spanishdict.com/topics/show/75 about "prospective actions." - jtaniel, Oct 26, 2016
Excellent thanks Bosque. The SpanishDict article on subjunctive uses fails to include this info. Cheers. - jellonz, Oct 26, 2016
StudySpanish.com and SpanishDict are great for the basics, Jehle is perfect for the next step, Then you have to get Benjamin and Butt A new Reference Grammar of modern Spanish- for the final step- I think I paid between 25-35 usd on Amazon. :) - bosquederoble, Oct 26, 2016
I see Jt managed to find the relevant info on SD, but it had eluded me. I'll be sure to check out Jehle. Thanks again. - jellonz, Oct 26, 2016
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The easiest way I find to think about it is .... are you wanting to declare the information as a fact (or something you believe to be a fact) - then use the indicative, if not, use the subjunctive. You might like to ask yourself questions like is it true? (indicative), or is it yet to come true (subjunctive, unless of course you are using the present indicative or future tense which allows you to declare the fact that you believe that something 'will' happen).

Sometimes when your sentence includes a number of pieces of information you may even need to ask yourself something like ... is this bit of information the focus of my sentence ie. Is the reason this piece of information is in the sentence is because I want to declare it (great use the indicative) or perhaps it's there to restate something already known, add a little background perhaps, set the scene with info that you and your hearer already know (then use the subjunctive).

Keep practicing and look out for examples given by native speakers and you'll soon get a feel for it wink

updated Oct 27, 2016
edited by Kiwi-Girl
posted by Kiwi-Girl
Thanks Kiwi-Girl. I get it now but it still seems strange that such a subtle difference invokes a different tense: "I will call you" - statement of fact; "When I return [I will call you]" - anticipated situation. They seem so similar in sentiment to me :) - jellonz, Oct 26, 2016
I'm guessing it is the case, but if the word order is reversed does it still remain an anticipated situation requiring the subjunctive even though it now follows a statement of fact: I will call you when I return / Te llamaré cuando vuelva ? - jellonz, Oct 26, 2016
it's what ever comes after the cuando that goes in the subjunctive regardless of whether that part of the sentence goes at the beginning or end :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 27, 2016
oh and dont forget that the spanish future tense is used much less than the English one if the future action is the close future, you're much more likely to say 'te llamo cuando vuelva' ;) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 27, 2016
Muchas gracias Kiwi-Girl :) - jellonz, Oct 27, 2016
De nada :) - Kiwi-Girl, Oct 27, 2016