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Tips to becoming more fluent

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Hello again! I have a question for you all. I feel like I am getting to know Spanish pretty well. I spend about a hour a day 5 days a week on this website learning new words. I am wondering if you guys have any suggestion about when I hear people speak in Spanish, not translating what they say word by word. I want to know it as a language not a series of words. Does it just take practice? For example, if I hear the word codo, I would "match" it to the word elbow. Though if I heard elbow in English I would automatically know what it was. I hope this question makes sense, it is a little bit hard to explain.

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updated Mar 22, 2017
edited by k_nelson
posted by k_nelson
"makes sense " "not translating" - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
@ray76, what do you mean by that? - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
They were two typos , I was helping you thats all , that is what we mods do , when you see the words in parenthesis it means there could be a mistake , I thought that you knew . - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
If you prefer not to be corrected then please say so . Good luck. - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
Oh, I did know that, I just didn't connect the dots. You can definitely correct me! I am just tired and got confused. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
You can also give me a vote I am not too old to be averse to being congratulated with a vote or three. - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
i have a same problem like you @kezia, you are a good students 1 hr per day - nepal15, Oct 6, 2016
Gracias nepal15. I have been doing a hour a day for a long time, and will continue until I graduate from highschool in a year and 1/2. I am considering taking a class at my community college to learn more! Which will help a lot. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
Wow you are a good student - Lilby8, Mar 22, 2017

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It takes time to learn.

If at all possible, listen to Spanish music, read books in Spanish daily, and study grammar as much as possible. That's what I've been doing for the past two and a half years.

Basically, it's a matter of immersing yourself as much as possible in the language.

updated Oct 7, 2016
posted by codyandrews1993
can you tell me simple spanish music, books or so on, it's hard searching and too much complicated?? - nepal15, Oct 6, 2016
I sometimes listen to music in Spanish, though often times when I do that I only know about every 10th word! How can I learn from that? I am not questioning you, I am just curios. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
It trains you to listen to what's being said. Try and get to every 9th word and then 8th and so on until you know. - codyandrews1993, Oct 7, 2016
The Spanish music that I listen to are artists like Marcos Vidal (Spain Christian Singer), Allison (Mexican Punk Rock Band), Jesus Adrian Romero (Mexican Christian Singer) - codyandrews1993, Oct 7, 2016
A book that I've been wanting/trying to tackle is Don Quixote. That might be a little hard to start off with, but if it's a book and it's in Spanish and interests you, read it. (maybe even if it doesn't interest you, I would still read it) - codyandrews1993, Oct 7, 2016
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There are two good "immersion" systems out there. One is the "Pimsleur Approach" which has been used successfully by several members on this site.

The other is "Rosetta Stone." I personally have never used it as it is rather expensive. I use Pimsleur to keep my Hebrew going.

Both can be checked into at Amazon. com.

Buena suerte.

By the way, "translation" is nothing bad. You just have to realize that the word order is different and things are said differently. One humorous example I use with my class has to do with washing one's hands.

In English it's "I wash/am washing my hands. In Spanish it's "I wash myself the hands." (Yo) me lavo las manos."

To ask someone's name you say " How yourself call you?" ¿Cómo te llamas (tú)?

So If you can realize that the structure going from one language to another changes, It's OK to have translation in mind.

updated Oct 6, 2016
posted by Daniela2041
I never wash my hands , it is overrated , they only get dirty again , of course that is if you only touch yourself and no one else coz they could be a 'grubb' . - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
My problem with the embedded translation in my brain is that it is just to slow to understand spoken Spanish. I have to recognise the word, translate it into English, then try and make sense of what is being said. - jellonz, Oct 6, 2016
If I could just recognise the word *and* understand its meaning without the need to mentally translate it then one step in comprehending what was being said would be avoided. - jellonz, Oct 6, 2016
After a while, if you have enough interaction with Spanish speakers, your brain begins to develop the essential neural pathways to enable you to "think in Spanish." The same happened to me with English. Now It's like I can shift gears from one to another - Daniela2041, Oct 6, 2016
you are great Daniela, but it's not easy to find Spanish people helping in speaking?? - nepal15, Oct 6, 2016
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There is no easy way and there is no 'one size fits all'. Just keep plugging

away until you find the middle ground that suits you . One of my methods is

while walking around shopping centres I make up conversations in Spanish

a question and answer thing saying it aloud , but be prepared to be sometimes

followed by security , luckily for me one day the uniformed armed guard

was a sweet lady from Mexico who threatened to arrest me for my bad Mexican

accent. Keep watching movies and listen to the radio , it will happen one day

Buena suerte para lel futuro , y bien hecho.

updated Oct 6, 2016
posted by ray76
I also had to by the Mexicana a lunch , but while the sun is shining make hay I say. "Olay " - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
¡Olé! Oy vey! - Daniela2041, Oct 6, 2016
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As Cody says: immersion. I've learnt Spanish online and can read it fairly well and write it OK, but my speech is poor and my ability to comprehend it when spoken is nearly non-existent. That ability to speak and hear a language just comes from speaking and hearing it. If you can find people to converse with either via some web platform or in person that interaction will benefit you more than anything.

As an aside, most online lessons teach in a form of translation. It's unavoidable. Unfortunately learning this way creates a process in the student's brain where we read / hear a word then translate it into English in order to understand it. In the written form this is fine because we can read at our own pace. When hearing words spoken, however, this process is just too slow. By the time the last word is translated the speaker is two words on. In order to understand a spoken language most of us will need to comprehend the words without translating them. And this will just come down to immersion.

updated Oct 6, 2016
edited by jellonz
posted by jellonz
G'day mate , nice to see that you are still doing so well. - ray76, Oct 6, 2016
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It takes a lot of practice and the same happens with any language you want to master.

For example, when I began learning English, I'd translate as much as I could so as to have a fully understanding of the things coming through my mind, then I realised I didn't need to translate because I already knew the word and I started to think in English.

The exercise is the same, you need to think as a Spanish speaker. If you have a penchant for learning Spanish, practice a lot and you'll see what the results are. Keep it up always, because if you don't use, you lose it. (It applies to any language you want to master.)

updated Oct 7, 2016
posted by Oshnaj
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Work till you drop!

updated Oct 6, 2016
posted by m_fifty
Gracias! - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
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I don't know what level you have reached nor if Spanish is the first language you have learned (ie as a second language) You need to be able to listen, write, read and speak.

When you learned your first language, you did lots of listening before you spoke. You then said simple sentences and most of the time were gently corrected til you got it correct.

Obviously spending time where everyone speaks Spanish will help as you will be forced to speak. I don't know if you are self studying or have a teacher. Whatever you enjoy doing try to do in Spanish eg if you want to read, read something in Spanish, listen to music in Spanish, radio and TV in Spanish. Find someone who wants to improve their English and chat online or if possible face to face. I find you need to do some things unconsciously eg music/ radio in the background then concentrate on other things. One of our teachers used to use exercises in Ver Taal. He chose ones that were on a subject we were already discussing. He used ones that used news items from rtve. The first few times we just listened, then he would give us some questions then we would relisten. The site has questions, answers and a transcript. There are many programmes like audacity where you can slow recordings down if you need extra help. There are lots of sites usually including ELE which have lessons with answers. I have often posted links here. I recommend signing up for the (free) electronic magazine Veintemundos. It has interesting articles with related grammar and videos. The pieces are graded (A1 to C2) The reason they are graded is you want material that stretches you but not overwhelms you.

Finally I am a huge fan of music, if you find a song you like or better still an artist ( Juanes is popular) you will soon find you are absorbing the rhythm of the language and meaning. I like Mercedes Sosa and have phrases running in my head. I also like Gaby Moreno.

Look back at some of my posts about music podcasts etc - in many cases other members have also posted good suggestions on those threads. Many good links are gathered together on Spanish dict. Beuna suerte

updated Oct 6, 2016
posted by Mardle
I know a lot of nouns in Spanish, I would probably still be at a beginners level though I could get by if I really tried. Spanish is the first language I have learned. I stated off learning with Rosetta Stone, though found that I wasn't learning much. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
I wanted to learn faster, so I switched to learning online. I have never had a teacher, though I could take a class through my college for free, though I am afraid that it would be too advance, since I have self taught myself everything. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016
I am surrounded by Spanish speakers, at my school it is what very common, and I am the only white girl. I try to figure out what they are saying though it seems impossible because they speak so fast! I will definitely try what you guys all have said. - k_nelson, Oct 6, 2016