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Order of Pronouns

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Hi, I would just like to clarify what's the order of the pronouns used.

I know:

Indirect Object + Direct Object + Conjugated verb

But I get confused to what becomes of the order once we are conjugating reflexive verbs.

Ayúdenme ustedes por favor. Me confunda ese tema, de verdad....

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updated Aug 25, 2016
posted by CarlosCarlderón1022

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As Mardle says, it is difficult to conceptualize using all 3. Reflexive/Pronominal always precedes both indirect and direct.

This has been a fascinating subject to me, three of the only eighteen questions I have personally asked have been on this. Here is a quote from one of them:

http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/264930/personal-pronoun-order

Most of us have learned RID (Reflexive, Indirect, Direct) as the traditional order of pronouns.

But, I have seen an alternative claim (Butt and Benjamin) that the order of the pronouns can be thought of as:

1-se

2-te/os

3-me/nos

4-le/les/lo/la/los/las

Although it is possible to think up sentences that meet one of the two schemes, but not the other(although honestly it is not easy), anytime I have seen such a sentence tried, native speakers do not like it, and delete and leave implicit one of the pronouns, or add a preposition, or somehow get out of it. Even if they won't admit (don't understand) why they are doing so.

Personally I have come to the conclusion that a properly formed sentence must follow both RID order and the order by Butt and Benjamin at the same time, and only sentences that meet both are possible.

Here is an example where I tried to break one of the rules:

http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/283943/he-sold-me-to-him

updated Aug 25, 2016
edited by bosquederoble
posted by bosquederoble
:) - rac1, Aug 24, 2016
Bosque, I think I gave you a good answer on the original "sold me to him question" - Daniela2041, Aug 25, 2016
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I cannot think of a sentence where you would use all three but here is a previous answer partly on the point.

Previous answer

Here is an answer on stack exchange, which may help until a native speaker answers

Stack exchange

updated Aug 25, 2016
posted by Mardle
:) - rac1, Aug 24, 2016
¿Tres pronombres --reflexivo, indirecto, y directo en la misma oración? No way, güey! - Daniela2041, Aug 25, 2016