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Yesterday I read this phrase in a magazine and I don't know exactly how to translated.

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updated May 19, 2008
posted by Dunia

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Well, Dunia, after all this! do you remember the rest of the sentence in the magazine? grin

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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I agree with your discussion of various uses of "off." Upon reflection, putting "off" before or after the verb gives it a different feel:

They went off into the woods and got lost.
Off they went without a second thought.

However, this is very subjective and depends on context, as you say.

This was the part of your earlier response which I had trouble with:

No, I don't think so. "Se" is a reflexive pronoun, while "off" is a preposition meaning "farther away from a current position" in this context.

I was just pointing out that the fact that Dunia's translation used the reflexive did not mean it was wrong. ("Off she slept" is clearly wrong, but "Off she went to sleep" would be OK. I know she is going to ask why -- it's just one of those things!!) Se fueron also carries the connotation of going farther away.

By the way, my Bantam dictionary translates "to be off" as "ponerse en marcha", but I don't think this adequately conveys all the nuances you have pointed out so well.

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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I think we can also say "y cosas por el estilo."

updated May 21, 2008
posted by 00bacfba
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I don't know how to translate this, but I (respectfully) disagree with part of your response. "irse" is translated "go away".

Hi, Natasha.
What part of my response do you disagree with? I said irse means to leave (among other nuances), which is pretty much synonymous with to go away.

I agree with your assessment that "off we go" has a lighthearted feel to it. It is often said in a cheerful voice. But it could also be used in the opposite way, such as a group of weary soldiers setting out after a too-short rest, with one grumbling, "Off we go."

updated May 21, 2008
posted by 00bacfba
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"And such" is not easy to translate. It depends in every context and phrase. "Y así" doesn't fit.

I would tranlate your examples: "todas esas cosas", "todo lo demás"

Such incidents = incidentes de ese tipo, esos incidentes

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Dunia
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Yes, Dunia, if you can keep up with all this you are at a very high level of proficiency indeed! I've had to stop and think about what we were saying myself!!

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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We have to change the utilities, pack boxes, and such, before we can move.

The boys got into a fight on the playground, and such incidents were becoming more common.

Discussions of politicians, elections, and such bore me.

(I would naively translate "and such" as "y así", but I don't know if that's correct.)

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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It is an air force song from WWII

Words & music here

http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/offwego.htm

updated May 21, 2008
posted by motley
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All is very interesting, so every time I have a new question. In which contexts or phrases could "and such" be used.

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Dunia
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Well . . . a lot of T-Shirts intentionally have double meanings (double entendre).

However, in regards to the T-shirt in question, I agree that all of you came to the right conclusion. I can't think of another meaning that makes sense, although "D---| you and such is not really correct English. Normally "and such" would not go after an imperative statement. The fact that it is used that way, supposedly by a baby, is part of what makes it funny.

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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I agree with you...But when you write something that it is said by a popular character on a T-shirt in order to be funny, is it possible more than one interpretation? I suppose it is, but the message can only be one, can't it be'

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Dunia
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"Off we go" has a lighthearted feel to it (which gives the song referenced a bouyant feeling, in spite of the fact that it is an army song about soldiers going to combat). A better example might be "We're off to see the wizard!" from The Wizard of Oz. Surely this has been translated into Spanish by now . . . does anyone know how this was handled?

"Off we went" sounds like the author was telling a story. It suggests that they left quickly, perhaps. "Off we went and then realized we had only $5 between us."

I don't know how to translate this, but I (respectfully) disagree with part of your response. "irse" is translated "go away". "dormirse" could be "fall asleep" (to which the colloquial equivalent would be off to sleep, as Dunia mentions). This is one example of how the reflexive in Spanish corresponds to something quite different in English.

I would be very interested to see what you and Dunia have to say in response to this (or anyone else)!

Dunia, when you are asking about T-shirts (I saw your other post) or considering words from songs, remember that in any language poetical references sometimes don't make sense. That's why even native speakers can differ in their interpretation and opinion. grin

updated May 21, 2008
posted by Natasha
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I didn't know it

updated May 20, 2008
posted by Dunia
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It is the theme song of the US Air Force. (You know, a part of the US military so beloved around the world, heheh). The title is "Off We Go Into (not "in to") the Wild Blue Yonder." Yonder means over there, far away; allá.

updated May 20, 2008
posted by 00bacfba
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It seems that you are refering to a song. Could you tell me the name and the singner/group'

updated May 20, 2008
posted by Dunia