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Incluyendo + indirect object pronouns

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I want to say in Spanish: "A lot of people including you and her like to play tennis" and "A lot of people including me and you like to drink wine"

Would these be correct:

"A mucha gente inclúyendotele les gusta jugar al tenis" OR "A mucha gente incluyéndote y a ella les gusta jugar al tenis"

AND "A mucha gente inclúyendomete nos gusta beber vino" OR "A mucha gente incluyéndome y a tí nos gusta beber vino"

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updated Jun 23, 2016
edited by Ramonaspiker
posted by Ramonaspiker

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A lot of people including you and her like to play tennis

A muchas personas/ A mucha gente inluyéndote a ti y a ella os gusta jugar al tenis.

A lot of people including me and you like to drink wine

A mucha gente/muchas personas incluyéndote a ti y a mi nos gusta tomar vino.

-------------Jellonz---------

A is needed.

Hablamos del vino en general, por lo que no hay que poner EL vino.

------------Littletwig.-----------

Me gusta el vino. Te gusta el vino.........les gusta el vino.

Me gustaN LOS vinoS. Te gustaN LOS vinoS... les gustaN los vinos.

El plural de gustar va acorde con el plural del objeto directo.

A mucha gente o a muchas personas , es exactamente lo mismo

--------Ramona-------'

Tomar better than beber.( beber se usa mas para calmar la sed y tomar para degustar) quiero emborracharme voy a beber todo el vino del mundo . Me apetece un vino. Voy a tomar una copita.

A ti y a mi. Por educación siempre yo al final (el burro por delante para que no se espante)

No dupliques nunca los pronombres de objeto indirecto.(,Incluyéndomete. Incluyéndosele ........)ya que sea cual sea la combinación todo se resume a nosotros "nos" vosotros "os" o ellos" les" casi siempre , por no decir suenpre estará mal, y en el mejor de los casos sonará a analfabeto.

Incluyéndome (a mi).

Incluyendote a ti y a mi= incluyéndonos (a nosotros)

updated Jun 23, 2016
edited by 000a35ff
posted by 000a35ff
Gracias Astotxua. - jellonz, Jun 20, 2016
So, the "incluyéndoTE" refers to "a ti" first and foremost I'm guessing. Would "including HER and me" be "incluyéndoSE a ella y a mi"? - jellonz, Jun 20, 2016
Incluyéndola a ella y a mi - 000a35ff, Jun 20, 2016
Sorry, I confused myself there. I meant to say "incluyéndoLE a ella y a mi". Why "incluyéndoLA" instead? - jellonz, Jun 20, 2016
Why not incluyéndonos (a ella y a mi)? - Ramonaspiker, Jun 23, 2016
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I don't think you can just add on extra IO pronouns. So maybe you would just use the inclusive pronoun then clarify after:

"A mucha gente, inclúyendose a ti y (a) ella, les gusta jugar al tenis"

"A mucha gente, inclúyendonos a mi y (a) ti, nos gusta beber el vino"

I'm not sure about the necessity of the second "a" or the comma use (that's just how I'd write it in English and I've transferred that to the Spanish version). I added the "el" to vino because I think technically it is the subject and requires it. However, I'm not that advanced so I could be wrong. Sorry for the vagueness smile

updated Jun 20, 2016
edited by jellonz
posted by jellonz
Well thanks a bunch for trying!! :) - Ramonaspiker, Jun 17, 2016
I do know for sure that the "a" is needed for each person. The article I'm not sure and the commas I do not know either. You might be right about the extra IO pronouns - Ramonaspiker, Jun 17, 2016
Hopefully Daniela or someone with as much knowledge passes by shortly. Cheers. - jellonz, Jun 17, 2016
I can think of a few....astotxua, Julian, Luis, chileno, Crue, Pablo...to name a few. :) - rac1, Jun 19, 2016
Thanks Rac. Yep, they are all helpful. I wish one would tell me how right or wrong my answer was :) - jellonz, Jun 19, 2016
Oh, duh, next time I'll scroll up before commenting. - jellonz, Jun 20, 2016
I thought astotxua did a great job. - Daniela2041, Jun 20, 2016
Agreed :) - jellonz, Jun 20, 2016
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Hi, can las personas be used instead of la gente: because the sentence is referring to a subset (unas personas) of people in general (la gente)?

Furthermore, you and I is preferable in English to me and you - is this the same in Spanish?

My offering:
1. A muchas personas, incluyendo tú (ud.) y ella, les gustan jugar al tenis.
2. A muchas personas, incluyendo tú (ud.) y yo, les gustan tomar vino.

updated Jun 19, 2016
posted by littletwig
"You and I" are preferable as subject pronouns, but the preposition "including" must take object pronouns here, hence "you and me." Consider how wrong "Many people, including I" sounds. - jellonz, Jun 19, 2016