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Forming passive voice sentence about oneself with reflexive pronouns.

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Hola a todos.

How would I form a passive voice sentence involving me or any other person in which the verb uses reflexive pronouns?

For example: I am remembered.

Verb: acordarse Direct object: me

My attempt: "Se me acuerda." or "Se soy acordado."

Another example: My keys were taken from me.

Verb: llevarse Direct object: las (las llaves) Indirect object: me

My attempt: "Se me fueron llevadas mis llaves."

Please help. I'm clearly lost.

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updated Jun 13, 2016
edited by cmusba
posted by cmusba

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Hello

Question 1
This is a complicated subject, and was discussed in this thread: Passive voice: reflexive vs ser+past participle

I believe you are correct in using acordarse, although in the example "I am remembered" the person "I" has triggered a memory in another: this is an action of reminder, and I wonder whether the verb recordar could also be used?

I remember = me acuerdo
They remember = se acuerdan
me and se in the above are the reflexive pronouns

To say 'they remember me' we need to use the direct object pronoun me: (ellos) me se acuerdan. In your example, I am remembered, the past (preterit) tense is being used: me acordé.

So, the sentence "I am remembered": (yo) estoy me acordé.

I would appreciate an opinion on if recordar is more appropriate: soy recordado, or (yo) estoy recordé?



Question 2

llevarse can be used, and the correct sentence structure I believe is: "Mis llaves fueron se llevado de mí."



updated Jun 13, 2016
posted by littletwig
Thank you - cmusba, Jun 12, 2016
So, the sentence "I am remembered": (yo) estoy me acordé. ¡N O W A Y, josé! - Daniela2041, Jun 12, 2016
In Q2: the past participle acts as an adjective I believe, and should agree in nuimber and gender: which is correct - Mis lllaves se fueron llevados de mí, or Mis llaves fueron se llevados de mí? Thanks. - littletwig, Jun 13, 2016
Daniela2041, thx, but can you explain? "Se acuerdan de mí" is present, "They remember me" - but the OP used past tense of acordarse. - littletwig, Jun 13, 2016
Me acordé - I remembered. Can SER be used with the p-part acorado? Soy me acordado? Thanks :) - littletwig, Jun 13, 2016
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A lot of times we don't use the passive in Spanish as much as you do in English. You have to turn them around a little.

Your first sentence I would turn it around and say.

"Se acuerdan de mí." (Soy acordado/a por -I think is legal but I wouldn't use it.)

Your second sentence is almost correct,except the "se" is not needed.. I would use a different verb. I would say.

" Me quitaron las llaves" They took my keys from me. "quitar" gets the action of someone taking something away from someone else a little better than "llevar."'

updated Jun 12, 2016
posted by Daniela2041
Thank you Daniela - cmusba, Jun 12, 2016