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Thinking about learning 5 more languages

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Hola mis amigos,

I'm thinking about learning five more Westerner languages (Spanish, French, German, Italian, and Portuguese). I was told when you're good with Spanish, you're more than half-way-there to speaking Portuguese. French is another big one that I want to learn. If I'm not too tired from learning those three, I might go for German and Italian.

To those that speak some of those common Westerner languages that I just mentioned, can you give me info that you feel would be helpful: cognates, similar grammar structure, difficulty level, and etc

Gracias

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updated Apr 8, 2016
posted by BernWillChris
Thank you for voting my answer the best. Search the site as there have been similar questions. Buena suerte Bonne chance - Mardle, Apr 6, 2016

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My native language is English, but at school I was taught Latin, French and Spanish. Some words are the same in French and Spanish, but the pronunciation is different.

I learned French for a number of years before I started learning Spanish. Our teacher advised us not to try learning Italian at the same time as we could get in a muddle. I remember an aunt of mine who had taught French and spoke fluent Italian was able to read my Spanish books - the books were not that complicated.

As Portuguese, French, Italian and Spanish are romance languages they do have some similar words, but also traps too. I had a good friend who was Portuguese and gave a group of us some basic lessons but though you may be able to guess some of the words the pronunciation is very different.

Unless you have a natural aptitude for languages - musical ability helps I would concentrate on improving your Spanish and if it is going well then use your skills to acquire another language. You need to be motivated - do you like the music sung in that language/ the films/ the books or do you want to explore a country where it is the main language? I remember speaking French in Laos where the younger people spoke Russian, but older people knew French.

I believe the grammar of German is difficult to master, but of course English has a lot of words derived from German.

I suspect for your third language French would be easier than German but think about why you want to learn. Unless you keep using a language you begin to lose it. I rarely speak French and though in exam terms I reached a higher level than in Spanish, my Spanish is now better.

updated Apr 7, 2016
edited by Mardle
posted by Mardle
Hi Mardle, an excellent contributor to this forum. Yes, right now, I have to take 3 semesters of Spanish to graduate. But I'm starting to get interested in the many languages. Thanks for your insight. - BernWillChris, Apr 5, 2016
I will stick with Spanish until I'm fluent. Spanishdict has a great site for teaching me grammar. Rosetta Stone, I heard, don't teach grammar like they should. - BernWillChris, Apr 5, 2016
Very good answer, Mardle :) - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
Thank you Feliz. I enjoyed your answer too. - Mardle, Apr 7, 2016
Thank you very much, Mardle :) - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
Okay Mardle, I'll make sure to search the forum before posting. Thanks again. - BernWillChris, Apr 7, 2016
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Good for you, Chris! You will discover the cognates as you go along. I know Spanish and French at an advanced level. I see you have started with Spanish. As a fellow English speaker, in my opinion French would have been the one to start with. I think Spanish is more difficult. The largest Portuguese speaking country is Brazil, but I don't know if Portugal usage differs greatly.

It sounds from your narrative that you are pursuing the normal adult path of learning to read the language and possibly speak it with a good accent. If you can do an immersion course it will help you read and compose once you master speaking and listening skills.

I don't know how difficult Portuguese is, but perhaps it could come third after Spanish and French then Italian. German has many difficulties and should probably be reserved until last. I have nothing other than accrued insights from a lifetime of loving languages to give as credentials so I hope my advice proves to be helpful.

Even if you are just doing this for "fun", I applaud your ambition and wish you success!

updated Apr 6, 2016
posted by Jubilado
Thanks Jubilado. This was useful. - BernWillChris, Apr 5, 2016
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Hello Bern,

Welcome to the SpanishDict forum smile

You said:

Hola mis amigos, I'm thinking about learning five more Westerner languages (Spanish, French, German, Italian, and Portuguese). I was told when you're good with Spanish, you're more than half-way-there to speaking Portuguese. French is another big one that I want to learn. If I'm not too tired from learning those three, I might go for German and Italian. To those that speak some of those common Westerner languages that I just mentioned, can you give me info that you feel would be helpful: cognates, similar grammar structure, difficulty level, and etc Gracias

I am and have been learning 5 other languages: Spanish, French, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese and Swedish. (I already speak English fluently!) The first 4 of these are considered Romance languages and so are in the same language family group! I can therefore speak with some degree of experience! I cannot possibly comment on German as I have no experience of learning this language nor any desire to do so. lol

There are similiarities in the grammar in Spanish, French and Portuguese in so much as when two verbs follow each other the second is generally in the infinitive

For example, " I would like to reserve a table for four people"

= Me gustaría reservar una mesa para cuatro personas (Esp)

= Je voudrais reserver une table pour quatre personnes (Fr)

= Eu gostaria reservar uma mesa para cuatro pessoas (Portug)

The pronounciation is noticeably different between all these languages so please be careful. The pronounciation of Portuguese in Brazil is often easier both to speak and understand than the Portuguese spoken in Portugal although I have been able to make myelf understood when I speak Portuguese to natives from Portugal. The sounds used in Brazilian Portuguese are more open (not clipped) I initially received lessons for about two years from a native from Sao Paolo in Brazil who was the youth pastor in our church.

The word when is spelt similiarly in Spanish and Portguguese but the pronounciation is not the same ..it is distinctly different:

Cuando (Spanish) (pronounced: Kwan doh)

Quando (Port) (Kwen doo) The a sound is pronounced like an e and the o is pronounced like a u)

You mentioned about level of difficulty in your question. ..this is hard to comment on since it is very subjective...some people will find French easier, some Italian, others Portuguese It really all depends on various factors such as: your innate language ability and previous level of exposure to these (or any other) languages!

I would suggest that Italian would be a good starting point for a second foreign language as it is more phonetical than either Portguese or French which have nasal sounds which can be very tricky for British people. I have personally found, and still consider, Portuguese to be the hardest to pronounce of all the Romance languages, although I have not really seriously tried to learn either Romanian or Catalan! wink

In terms of pronounciation, in my view Spanish is much easier than French because it is more phonetical and therefore becomes more intuitive when you have reached a reasoanble standard of proficiency (eg Intermediate), but I think that Spanish grammar is more complex having more verb forms.(tenses, and moods) Daniella or Jubilado might correct me on this, as they speak Spanish and French to a more advanced level! wink

I hope this helps smile

updated Apr 8, 2016
edited by FELIZ77
posted by FELIZ77
Nice to see you again! It's interesting that you found Spanish easier. I'm sure there are subjective factors that influence out opinions but it's all good really! - Jubilado, Apr 7, 2016
Oh, and I hope BernWillChris will appreciate this advice from a truly kindred polyglot like yourself. - Jubilado, Apr 7, 2016
Thank you, Jubilado :) I started learning Spanish and French in childhood at school,, my other languages followed later lol ;) - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
I think that being born in Peru and living out in Lima for the first 18 months to 2 years of my life certainly helped, as also does having a musical ear (I can play the piano by ear) - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
This should be a co-best answer. I've found this to be very helpful. You're an adult, I'm assuming, but I think 5 are too much for one time. - BernWillChris, Apr 7, 2016
But as someone that done some research on this previously, you're taking a lot of languages that are similar grammatically and use cognates. - BernWillChris, Apr 7, 2016
Question, Spanish has over 50 conjugations for each verb, with some irregulars too. Do native speakers of Spanish really use that many conjugations often? Thanks in advance for your future response. - BernWillChris, Apr 7, 2016
I believe that natives use present indicative in idiomatic way in certain situation when we native Englsih speakers would use the past eg I have been living in Spain for seven yeas = Llevo viviendo en España siete años - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
Yes, I am an adult! Thank you for your comments. I am pleased that you found it to be very helpful :) - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
I am not sure how many conjugations Spanish has for each verb, because I am not a native speaker or an expert on Spanish grammar but if you are right , then I would say they would probably use about half of those conjugations on a regular basis and the - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
other conjugations occasionally as and when required! Daniela is a native speaker and Spanish teacher so would be much more likely to give you a more accurate answer to this question. - FELIZ77, Apr 7, 2016
Thanks again. I love this environment. Everyone is helpful and friendly. - BernWillChris, Apr 8, 2016
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Wow! Ambitious and admirable! I'd be interested in knowing why you want to learn five languages and what you want to do as a career. Depending on what you do, you might become a jack of all trades, master of none. wink

Good luck whatever path you take.

updated Apr 6, 2016
posted by Winkfish
They are similar which would make the journey easier. If I feel too overwhelmed, I will drop the last two languages. - BernWillChris, Apr 5, 2016