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Not por and para again!

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I came across the following 2 sentences in a grammer book and I can't see why one is por and the other para. "Sé que lo harías por mí" ("I know that you would do it for me") and "organicé una fiesta para mi amigo" ("I organised a party for my friend").

While I'm writing, is there any book devoted solely to por and para with, preferably, hundreds of Practice exercises?

Gracias por su ayuda

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updated Oct 28, 2015
posted by mojac

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"Sé que lo harías por mí" ("I know that you would do it for me") and "organicé una fiesta para mi amigo" ("I organised a party for my friend").

To address only the example given, which I think illustrates a nice point and is worth discussing for everyone to see:

Para- do something for the purpose of someone

Por- do something in someone’s stead.

Compré un regalo por mi esposa- I bought a present that my wife was supposed to buy- maybe it was for her niece but she couldn’t make it to the store, so I went. I bought a present for her.

Compré un regalo para mi esposa- I bought a present to give to my wife. It is for her. I bought a present for her.

Canté por él- I sang for him. He was sick, couldn’t do the performance, I sang in his place. He wasn't even there.

Canté para él. I sang for him. He was my audience, I sang for his listening pleasure.

If you analyze these examples, you should understand the choices above. Simple choice of preposition changes the meaning in a way that in English can only be done with further clarification.

updated Oct 27, 2015
posted by bosquederoble
Stead?????????? How about "behalf"? - chileno, Oct 27, 2015
From our dictionary: in somebody's stead--en lugar de alguien - bosquederoble, Oct 27, 2015
Fantastic explanation. Stead- instead of, in her stead, her place, yes, fine. Oldfashioned word, to me, but , yes, understandable. - annierats, Oct 27, 2015
It's the difference between "in her behalf (para ella)" and "on her behalf (por ella),"a fine distinction in English if ever there was one. - AnnRon, Oct 27, 2015
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I'm going to post some links. If you will do some research, you will find a lot about this on the internet. Especially the one that Kiwi gives this link:

por vs para drills

Understanding por vs para

por vs para

por vs para practice

I believe these will be very helpful.

updated Oct 28, 2015
edited by rac1
posted by rac1
No one wants to do any research. Everyone wants a quick answer mostly for homework. - rac1, Oct 28, 2015
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This type of problems always comes up, because either, you are trying to write in Spanish with a limited knowledge of it or you are translating from Spanish to English without context.

That's why I advise to transcribe and translate a novel from Spanish to English. Lots of context.

smile

updated Oct 27, 2015
posted by chileno