Using "esta está" in a sentance and alternative?

Question

"Somos mundos aparte de uno del otro ahora y creo esta está un problema."

Which I hope you all translated to "We are worlds apart from each other now and I think this is a problem."

Is "esta está" translating to "this is" used like this often or understood in Spanish? Just odd to me but seems correct. I know one could change it to "este" instead.

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Answer 1

Estamos mundos aparte el uno del otro ahora y creo que esto es un problema.

With this sentence you can´t use "esta está" because the action of being apart is just a situation, an abstract thing, so it reverts to neuter gender "esto", which we say in masculine. Also the verb ser must be used rather than estar for "the problem" as the problem is the nature of this situation and not a state of being.

"Esta está" is completely understandable when used in the proper context, ie: Hay dos cuidades, la nuestra en que estamos y la otra que está lejos pero esta está mas poblada que la lejana.

Answer 2

I am not agree at all with Julianchivi, but it can be cause my English is poor. I am agree with him in the use of "Esto" in this sentence and that "esta está" is completly understable cause the context an the diferent pronunciation of it., but not in the use of the verb estar.

We are worlds apart from each other now and I think this is a problem..

I think that the English sentence means diference betwen "us". Then the Spanish sentence must uses "SER"

Ahora somos mundos aparte EL uno del otro y creo que (esto) es un problema.(esto can be omitted)

We are at worlds apart from each other now and I think this is a problem.

I am not sure having written properly into English the sentence, but I think that the sense of it is clear. In this case you must use estar because you are speaking about diferent placements, or social levels

Ahora estamos en mundos aparte El uno del otro y creo que (esto) es un problema.( esto can be omitted)

El ejemplo de las dos ciudades está en castellano. ;) - chileno, Oct 6, 2015

estoy de acuerdo = I agree / no estoy de acuerdo = I do not agree. Ser or estar for "we are worlds apart" is an interesting issue, maybe either is possible? - Manity, Oct 6, 2015

Que chispa tienes Chileno ;) - 000a35ff, Oct 6, 2015

thanks Manity for yours corrections. - 000a35ff, Oct 6, 2015

Why does one use "el" after "aparte" instead of "de"? - Dezzic, Oct 6, 2015

I understand the reasons for using SER instead but why does one use "el" after "aparte" instead of "de"? " - Dezzic, Oct 6, 2015

I realize one should not translate literally but I am reading "Now we are worlds apart the one of the other and.." instead of "Now we are worlds apart from one of the other and ..." - Dezzic, Oct 6, 2015

Dezzic, it's just the way this expression is formed in Spanish. Gender and number might change (e.g. la una de la otra) but other than that it's a set phrase. - Manity, Oct 6, 2015

I just simply looked up each other and didn't know if the "el" was there just for the example or not. Much appreciated, everyone who helped! - Dezzic, Oct 6, 2015

Answer 3

Somos mundos separados/apartes

Estamos en mundos apartes/separados

??

Answer 4

I think that Txelis doesn´t agree at all because he has interpreted "mundos" as the people involved. If this is the case, then I agree that "somos" should be used, but then "aparte" must be plural "apartes" because it is an adjective of "mundos".

My interpretation, however, is that "mundos aparte" indicates a distance, which would be similar to "Estamos muchos kilometros aparte ......" This does not have to be literal, it can mean that our opinions, understandings are very different.

In either case, both variants can be correct. It´s a matter of what the original writer intended.

mundos aparteS me sonaba mal, así que he buscado en la enciclopedia el uso de "aparte" como adj y ésto es lo que he encontrado: "Como adjetivo, invariable en número, significa que algo o alguien está separado o debe considerarse de forma separada" - 000a35ff, Oct 7, 2015

como adverbio de lugar o modo , evidentemente es invariable. visto ésto me ratifico en "mundos aparte" - 000a35ff, Oct 7, 2015

Answer 5

Hola Dezzic.

I don't know your Spanish level. as you can see in my profile I am beginner in English . if you want i could try to explain it in Spanish.

I will try to do my best but keep on mind that my English is poor and can be wrong.

"Aparte" sometimes is followed by the preposition "de" . Not always.

"Aparte" as adverb, means separate.

the car and the motorcycle are parked in separate plots.

El coche y la moto estan aparcados en parcelas aparte/separadas.

The car is parked apart from the motorcycle.

El coche está estacionado aparte de la moto/ separado de la moto.

As you can see we use it for refering to two or more things, with phisical separation betwen them.

El BMW está aparcado en frente de casa y el SEAT y la moto están aparte, en el garage.

The BMW is parked at front of the house and the SEAT and the motorcycle are apart, at the garage.

El coche y la moto estan aparcados aparte el uno del otro

The car and the motorcycle are parked apart the one of the other

An advise, Not confuse it with the locution "aparte de", with the meanings of "outside of ", "with omission of", and " in addition to"