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Subjuntivo o presente??

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So I am trying to say "For those who want to go to the country with the best education, they can go to China".

I have... Para los que quieren irse al país con la mejor educación del mundo, se pueden ir a China.

BUT, my question is should it be se PUEDEN, or se PUEDAN???

Gracias

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updated Apr 20, 2015
posted by sammyman68
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Poder doesn´t need to be in subjunctive, but I would say your sentence a little differently, ie: Para los que quieren ir al país con la mejor educación en el mundo, pueden ir a China.

updated Apr 17, 2015
posted by 005faa61
He could've means "pueden irsa a China" but it sounds a bit abrupt to me - HackerKing, Apr 17, 2015
irse no irsa - HackerKing, Apr 17, 2015
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Im a noob in spanish, so correct me if im completley wrong right now. I think it should be pueden since its poner you are conjugating, and its a -er verb, -an is for -ar verbs, not -er. Please tell me im right :/

updated Apr 17, 2015
edited by Prinskorv
posted by Prinskorv
I just looked it up, im wrong haha - Prinskorv, Apr 16, 2015
Arent you asking about indicative or subjunctive? - Prinskorv, Apr 16, 2015
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I'm not a native Spanish speaker. Having said that, my thought is that it depends on whether the speaker knows who it is that wants a better education. If the speaker doesn't know who specifically may want a better education (which seems the more likely case) I believe you need the subjunctive. I would say it like this: Para quienes quieran ir al país que cuenta con el mejor sistema educativo, puedan ir a China. Note that I conjugated querer in the present subjunctive tense, not just poder.

updated Apr 17, 2015
posted by malbecblend
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I believe this is not subjunctive. In order to be subjunctive the subject in the main clause must be different to the subject in the subordinate clause.In this case both are they. this is an informative sentences that can be written in present or future tense.

Tu oracóon usando el subjuntivo: Deseo que todos los que quieran irse al país con el mejor sistema educativo del mundo, puedan irse a China.

updated Apr 17, 2015
posted by jemamu
Your subjuntive sentence is changing the meaning of the sentence. In the original one the subject are "the people who want to go.." but in yours the sibject is "I". For me is not a valid example. - txustaboy, Apr 17, 2015
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The verb "poder" in this case can't be in subjuntive (in a logical way) but the verb "querer" can be. It depends of the way you want to express the sentence,:

Aquellos que quieran irse al país con la mejor educación del mundo, pueden irse a China. (subjuntivo)

Aquellos que quieren ir (irse) al país con la mejor educación del mundo, pueden ir (irse) a China. (indicativo)

Basically, both mean the same with little hints.

The only way i think that is possible to use "poder" is in conditional form:

Aquellos que quieren ir al país con la mejor educación del mundo, podrian irse a China.

But this sentence, can be undestood by a Spanish native speaker in other way.

EDITED: Corrected due to Julian_Chivi suggestion. Thanks for comment my mistake smile

updated Apr 20, 2015
edited by txustaboy
posted by txustaboy
Estoy de acuerdo, el subjuntivo no se puede usar tanto que "podrían" no es subjuntivo, sino es condicional simple" - 005faa61, Apr 18, 2015