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Subjunctive with multiple dependent clauses

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How do you translate a sentence that has subjunctive with multiple dependent clauses, such as: "It is natural that you are angry that he is so proud."

I know that "you are angry" would be subjunctive, but what about "he is so proud"? Would it be subjunctive or indicative?

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updated Apr 10, 2015
posted by tkzncochran
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This is not homework. I was not asking you to translate it for me. I was trying to figure out if the 3rd verb would be subjunctive or indicative. My translation would be either (A) "Es natural que estés enojado que él sea tan orgulloso." - tkzncochran, Apr 9, 2015
or "Es natural que estés enojado que él es tan orgulloso." Which would be correct? - tkzncochran, Apr 9, 2015
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I agree with Bosquederoble, however, in your original sentence

"It is natural that you are angry that he is so proud."

subjunctive should be used with the last two verbs: Es natural que estés enojado de que él sea tan orgulloso.

updated Apr 10, 2015
posted by 005faa61
Thanks for confirming. This is what I thought it would be, but wanted to be certain. - tkzncochran, Apr 9, 2015
Gracias, Julian. :) - bosquederoble, Apr 9, 2015
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I fully believe that you take each clause for what it is and if it should be subjunctive it is, if not it is not, regardless of what came before. I have heard of a phenomenon known as “subjunctive contamination” which means that at times something that is not requiring subjunctive ends up in it due to the weight of the preceding subjunctive, but that is not considered to be proper grammar.

You are angry that he is so proud-

In this sentence by itself I believe that you would use subjunctive for the second clause (he is so proud) – because there is an emotion being expressed about the second part, it is not a declaration. (And as a stand-alone, the first part – You are- without something before it, of course is indicative as it is what is being declared).

Adding a clause before that changes the “you are” into requiring subjunctive, because you are rendering a feeling about that part as well, should not affect that the sub-clause already needed subjunctive.

This is my opinion as a non-native, intermediate level speaker. Please wait for other input as well.

updated Apr 9, 2015
posted by bosquederoble
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estes and sea

updated Apr 10, 2015
posted by Rey_Mysterio