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If your father dies when you are a child and later your mother remarries and your "new father" adopts you, is he considered your step-father, or your adopted-father? (In any culture).

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updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by 005faa61
He is only your adopted father if he legally adopts you , otherwise he is your step father whilst married to your mother , but ceases to be if they divorce , but your adopted father always is your adopted father . - ray76, Feb 13, 2015

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In Louisiana, an adoptive father is legally in all respects "the father." If the new husband does not adopt the child, he is the "step-father" and does not have the same rights a parent would.

updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by Winkfish
Correct mate. - ray76, Feb 13, 2015
Winkfish, you cleared up my confusion in your comments under Jubilado´s post - 005faa61, Feb 13, 2015
Glad I could help! - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
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I know of one case personally where a daughter was legally adopted by her mother's husband. If the girl in question had not been adopted and went between households of the mother and the father she would be considered a step child to the non-biological parent. In her case however her biological father abandoned her and so her step-father's adoption of her makes her in every sense his daughter.

In your case, Julian, where the father dies then there is no father-child relationship in the natural sense and if the husband of the mother refuses to adopt the child, the child is a step-child. Once he /she is adopted he / she ceases to be a step-child.

I live in the United States and I am not quoting law but am confident that what I described is legal.

Edited in: I have not heard the term adopted-father used except to describe an action not a relationship.

updated Feb 13, 2015
edited by Jubilado
posted by Jubilado
You are pretty spot on, Jubilado. What I said about Louisiana law would be pretty darn similar in the other states as well. - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
Jubis, if there is no longer a father-child relationship, how do you call the natural father who died? - 005faa61, Feb 13, 2015
He would still be his father, dead or alive. - rac1, Feb 13, 2015
Rac, I agree but this is the confusion: If your father is dead and are adopted, do you now have two fathers? What do you call the second one? - 005faa61, Feb 13, 2015
If you have to make a distinction, one would say "biological father" and "adoptive father." We adopted our son. There are two sets of parents - biological and adoptive. The biological parents no longer have any parental rights, but they still exist. - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
Instead of "biological," many people use "birth" as in birth mother or birth father. - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
Simply put, your real (biological) father and your adoptive father. That's how most people say it in everyday conversation. - rac1, Feb 13, 2015
Rac1, with all due respect, nobody (with any sense) says "real" father to refer to the biological one. In my case, I am my (adopted) son's "real" father. If you did ask an addoptive father about his son'e "real" father, I'd expect you'd get - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
a very nasty look, if not more. - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015
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Personally, it depends on how big a role the man played in your childhood. If they were functionally the equivalent of a father (i.e. your memories of childhood involve this man acting as a father), then I would say father. If he only recently entered the picture, step father.

I've personally not heard of the term "adopted" father, but that could just be me [North-Eastern US]

updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by HackerKing
I think that you may find that adoption laws are a federal issue , therefore pretty universal. - ray76, Feb 13, 2015
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Step-father until he legally adopts you, then he's both. That's the UK legal answer.

updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by Faldaesque
I don´t know about the legalities, but this idea makes the most sense to me - 005faa61, Feb 12, 2015
Yes, I agree with Falda :) - FELIZ77, Feb 13, 2015
However, I have not heard of many cases where the stepfather legally adopts his partner's child - FELIZ77, Feb 13, 2015
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In England step parents do adopt their partner's children. Birth mother/father are used informally but natural parent is more usual. It can be important if you are spending a lot of time caring for a child to have your responsibilities recognised in law. However, that can be done by a parental responsiblity order or a residence order. I don't know the law in Scotland because despite all living on the same island we have very different legal systems. Increasingly adoptions are becoming more open. It may be the court would decide the child should not change their surname, but if their Mum has new children with their stepfather, they often want to share a surname with their siblings. However,adoption means they would inherit from their 'new' father rather than old family [where they are not named specifically in a will]

updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by Mardle
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Clarification about my previous post, mostly in reply to Julian and Winkfish:

1 For a deceased parent, I said there was no relationship because no matter how much the child may love the memory (if any) of the decedent, a true parent-child relationship (outside of religious faith) can only exist between two living members. I did not mean to imply that a child cannot love and cherish the deceased parent's memory.

2 I was not confident using the term "adoptive" in my answer though I know that in some cases there can be varying degrees of relationship between the adopted child and the biological parent and adopting parent. But in Julian's original question he was asking about the term "adopted father", and in his example I think the term is not commonly used.

updated Feb 13, 2015
posted by Jubilado
Jubi, I agree with you. Indeed, "adoptive" would not generally be used unless there was a specific question asked, or medical reason. Otherwise it's just "Dad" regardless of the adoption. - Winkfish, Feb 13, 2015