¿Qué es "escripto"? ¿El verbo "escribir" tiene dos participios?"

Question

http://www.spanishdict.com/conjugate/escribir

Me da ¨escrito¨ y ¨escripto¨.

Es mi primera vez que veo algo así, ¿Por qué son dos formas? ¿Puedo usar la segunda o no es en uso? Si no es (no sea?) un error en la página, nunca vi "escripto" antes.

Homework?? - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

Did you know that SpanishDict provides free Spanish lessons? - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

Nope, I tried the free lessons on Fluencia, but you have to pay for the rest. - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

Here at SD, they are free. - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

An intermediate should understand a lot of these things already. - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

Sapphire2137: Thanks for filling out your profile. - Jubilado, Feb 4, 2015

It sounds like a legitimate question to me. Why would Spanishdict list "escripto" as an alternative participle if it doesn't exist? - AnnRon, Feb 4, 2015

Or another way of putting it is "If "escripto" is a legitimate past participle of "escribir," why is Spanishdict the only site to recognize it? - AnnRon, Feb 4, 2015

rac1, an intermediate should understand which things exactly? I've never seen "escripto" or a verb with two participles before. This is the only site I've seen that gives two forms. Are you implying that I shouldn't say I'm intermediate? - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

I aggree Sapphire, I think if you read text containing 'escripto' you must be very advanced indeed, it would be old and difficult texts. - annierats, Feb 4, 2015

It's not only this one, Sapphire. You have asked other questions that being an intermediate should know. - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

anierats, I didn't read "escripto" in any text, I just noticed it on the conjugation page for "escribir" on SpanishDict. I surmised it was an old form, so I posted a question to confirm it. - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

The only old, or somewhat old, text I read in Spanish is the Reina Valera 1909. This site has an excellent audio recording which I listen to often: https://wordproject.org/bibles/audio/07_spanish/index.htm - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

rac1, as I don't want to get ahead of myself, I removed my Spanish proficiency level on my profile. Thanks for your comments. - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

I still cannot see where you fillout your profile . - ray76, Feb 4, 2015

whats surmise mean - Rey_Mysterio, Feb 5, 2015

Rey_Mysterio, just google words to check their definition. Here's the definition of "surmise": http://www.google.com/search?q=surmise+definition&oq=surmise+definition - 00fa22c5, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 1

I have never seen it, it appears to be an antiquated form.

http://spanish.about.com/od/conjugation/a/irr_participles.htm

(please read the whole link, not just my extract from it)

Some verbs have more than one past-participle form. In some cases, usage varies with region, and in some cases the past participle varies depending on whether the participle is used with an auxiliary verb or as an adjective to modify a noun.

RAE:

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escripto, ta.

(Del part. irreg. ant. de escribir).

1. adj. escrito.

2. m. desus. escrito.

http://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/escripto

Español

escripto

• Pronunciación: [ es?k?ip.to ] (AFI)

• Etimología: del latín scr?ptus, participio pasivo de scr?b?, scr?bere ("escribir").

Sustantivo masculino[editar]

Singular Plural

escripto escriptos

1 Variante de escrito.

• Uso: anticuado.1

Adjetivo y participio[editar]

Singular Plural

Masculino escripto escriptos

Femenino escripta escriptas

2 Variante de escrito.

• Uso: anticuado.1

Thanks a ton! Best answer, with links too (The RAE site looks really useful.) I did think it must be an old form, and I was right. :) - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

This is good research and pedagogy. When you get to 50K there's going to be a big celebration! - Jubilado, Feb 4, 2015

Thanks, Jubilado. De nada, Sapphire, R A E is the site that is considered the most reputable, period. :) - bosquederoble, Feb 4, 2015

¡Una respuesta muy buena, Bosque! ☺ - FELIZ77, Feb 4, 2015

Answer 2

"Escrito" es el participio absolutamente más utilizado en el habla del día a día .

Por otro lado "Escripto" como bien lo han señalado otros compañeros aquí; es una forma arcaica algo así como ( work - wrought ) que me parece haberla visto en algún libro pero no recuerdo dónde exactamente. Ah y considero que debería conocerse solo por cultura general y no preocuparse mucho sobre eso, porque NADIE lo utiliza.

Suerte con los participios irregulares, que no son muchos a decir verdad

Work/wrought = another good example. Wrought is still used commonly as an adjective, e.g. wrought iron... :-) - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

Thanks Falda. I know the usage of wrought as an adjective but it is no longer used as a past participle, is it? - leumas11, Feb 4, 2015

In short, no. You could use it if deliberately trying to sound archaic. Many native English-speakers wouldn't understand. Some would... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

I guess it appears in some older poetry & maybe in some older editions of the Bible... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

Answer 3

escripto, ta.

(Del part. irreg. ant. de escribir).

1. adj. escrito.

2. m. desus. escrito.

Real Academia Española © Todos los derechos reservados

Note that "desus" means "no longer in use".

Where did you find that? Thanks for your reply. :) - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

He found it at "Real Academia Española"..as is stated here. - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

Yes, I saw that. I just wanted to know which website it was. No worries, another user already graciously posted the link to it. - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

Answer 4

Here are some examples of other Spanish verbs with alternative past participles...

Thanks - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

except for 'poseso' I use irregular participle :D in fact 'imprimido' sounds weird to me - Pablo064, Feb 4, 2015

With the English alternatives there's an American/British English divergence, e.g. both 'gotten' & 'snuck' sound distinctly AE, although 'snuck' is used more & more in BE nowadays... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

& 'gotten' was used in Britain before the colonisation of America, so it's actually an older form that the Americans have kept & the British discarded... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

De hecho en algunos casos, estos participios irregulares no son intercambiables. A veces una forma se usa más como participio y la otra forma como adjetivo. - leumas11, Feb 4, 2015

Que pone la pregunta, cual se usa como uno y cual como el otro... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

Abre un nuevo hilo si gustas, Falda; así puedo poner ejemplos y explayarme. :-) - leumas11, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 5

Haga el favor de cumplir completar o rellenar su perfil y niveles de inglés y español,

Aúnque está aquí http://www.spanishdict.com/conjugate/escribir no podía encontrarlo en otro sitio. No creo que exista.

Bien, lo hice. - 00fa22c5, Feb 4, 2015

¿De cumplir?..Será completar o rellenar su perfil - txustaboy, Feb 4, 2015

@ txustaboy, ¡Gracias! ¿Spanglish en mi pensamientos? No sé. - Jubilado, Feb 4, 2015

Answer 6

I posted the links to free Spanish lessons on this site see this post:

Free Spanish

And here is another site with free beginner lessons:

studyspanish.com

Muchas gracias, amigo. - rac1, Feb 4, 2015

Answer 7

The Michel Thomas basic course, which is the one I used last year, teaches both forms of past participle for 'escribir' as alternatives (& I believe there are other verbs with more than one form of the past participle).

This phenomenon exists in English too, e.g. got/gotten, learned/learnt, bit/bitten dreamed/dreamt, leaped/leapt, sneaked/snuck etc (not to mention the many instances when the preterite is used (strictly speaking, wrongly, or in regional dialect) in substitution for the participle, e.g. he has sung - he has sang, he has swum - he has swam etc).

Even the English verb, 'to write' ('escribir') does technically (albeit archaically) have two forms, being written/writ. The latter form, the more archaic, used to act as the pp yet nowadays tends only to survive as a relic for certain kinds of legal documents, where it is used as a noun, e.g. 'writ of habeas corpus'. (and, the preterite/pp substitution is also common: he has written - he has wrote)...

Probably nobody in Spain knows the word "escripto". I think I am a learned guy, and i never have seen that word. - txustaboy, Feb 4, 2015

Well, Michel Thomas (RIP) (who devised the course himself) wasn't a native speaker, so maybe that has something to do with it... - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015

However, I can't take much kudos for having learned something in Spanish within one month of starting it that seemingly most natives don't know, since I still can't speak it after eight ;-) - Faldaesque, Feb 4, 2015