Where are the Spanish speakers when one needs them?

Question

Unfortunately we have a severe lack of expert Spanish speakers who want to correct our Spanish on the threads for word of the day and picture of the day.

I wonder why.

Lamentablemente tenemos una grave falta de hablantes de español de expertos que quieren corregir nuestro español en los hilos de la palabra del día y la imagen del día.

Lamentablemente tenemos una grave falta de hablantes expertos de español que quieran corregir nuestro español en los hilos de la palabra del día y la imagen del día.

Gracias leumas11

Me pregunto por qué.

Instead of "las roscas" I would say "el tema" ;) - chileno, Jan 31, 2015

:) - FELIZ77, Feb 1, 2015

Answer 1

I would like to suggest for those taking the time to correct and help others but not want to participate. Make a blank post so we can vote for you also because we can't vote for comments.

Good idea amigo. :) - ian-hill, Feb 5, 2015

Estoy de acuerdo, Andreknue :) - sanlee, Feb 5, 2015

OK, parece razonable. - Daniela2041, Feb 6, 2015

Answer 2

Now you have me feeling guilty. I do a lot of correcting in the comments, but not as an official "corrector" I would be willing to give it a try, but with my schedule I wouldn't be able to spend long periods of time at it. I sort of come and go and put in my two centavos' worth whenever I can. I'll speak to Amber about it and see what happens.

I understand that problem amiga. Thanks for the help you DO give us Dani. - ian-hill, Feb 1, 2015

We love you for what you are willing to do You help out a lot already Daniella :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

We certainly do not want you or any other native to feel guilty for not doing enough or not feel put upon /pressured to do more, Daniella. However, if you would like to help out as and when you can I am sure this would be very much appreciated - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 3

To be honest, this is the reason why I don't take part in any games/exercises (eg word/picture of the day, translation exercises etc). Absolutely no disrespect implied here, but without corrections from a native speaker, I can't see any point at all. There is also a big danger that people can pick up on the mistakes of others and just accept them as gospel.

As this is a free forum etc, I am always eternally grateful for any corrections I am given, but I also appreciate that making corrections can be very time consuming and I certainly don't expect it as a right - as I would of course if I was paying for help.

It's a difficult one isn't it.....on the one hand it's great to practise and have a bit of fun with like-minded individuals, but on the other, if corrections are not made then perhaps all that is happening is people are practising and consolidating their mistakes.

True amigo. - ian-hill, Feb 1, 2015

Gracias amigo. Agradezco mucho la ayuda de todo el mundo, tanto en español y a veces en la gramática Inglés también! hehehe!! - billygoat, Feb 1, 2015

I understand where you are coming from mate , but it is like defeatist , we can all still try and do the best that we can - ray76, Feb 5, 2015

I think that I understand where you are coming ffrom and agree with you up to a point Billy, as we do not wnat to reinforce our mistakes, But we can still learn from others here who are not natives because we correct each other here ! - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Those people who are more advanced Spanish speakers than myself like Kiwi and Jubilado still offer corrections to my posts and other intermediate speakers like Annierats are also welcome to leave comments and suggestions/corrections if they think I am wro - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

wrong. I am also taking Spanish clases once a week, in Skype, with a native from Spain and sometimes ask her to check my posts via a link :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

classes - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Hi Feliz. I do agree with you to some degree, but from what I have seen very few corections are offered on the games here. I have received far more corrections when I have tried to answer individual threads. Don't get me wrong playing games is great - billygoat, Feb 5, 2015

fun but for me personally there needs to be some sort of real learning focus to it. I am here (and other sites) to learn Spanish first and foremost, if I can have a bit of fun doing so then brilliant, I'm up for that!! - billygoat, Feb 5, 2015

I would say that looking up things for some of the game threads causes me to study things I might not otherwise, and the game threads allow me to practice simpler sentences, whereas I tend to try to write something harder whenever I expect a correction. : - bosquederoble, Feb 5, 2015

If I don't have a game to force me do that type of practice, I tend not to do it. So I still find it useful, although obviously it would be even better if everything were corrected. - bosquederoble, Feb 5, 2015

Hi Bosque, that's the great thing about individuals and learning styles.... if it works for you then great, go for it! - billygoat, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 4

Not so long ago we could not have daily threads without official correctors. If that were so now we would have no daily threads.

We have NO ONE.

No hace mucho tiempo que no podíamos tener hilos diarias sin correctores oficiales. Si eso fuera así ahora no tendríamos discusiones / hilos diarias.

Tenemos Nadie.

Answer 5

A tiempo, creo que la mayoría de las personas que participan con frecuencia en los hilos en SpanishDict, tales como; La foto del día y La palabra del día y otros juegos apreciarían mucho recibir las correcciones de nativos hispanohablantes siempre que nos sigan a hacer/ofrecer las correcciones con sensibilidad (es decir, de una manera respetuoso de nosotros) y que a veces nos dan palabras de ánimo (aliento) cuando hemos escrito frases españolas bien (con pocos errores).

Sabemos que algunos nativos / nativas hacen muchas contribucciones a esta comunidad / dan mucho ayudo a los otros, aquí, por ejemplo. Cordobesa, Daniela, Julian, Leumas, Luis, y Txusta boy y a tiempo _de _ es y Chileno. ...etc...

Todos ustedes nativos hispanohablantes, ¿Les gustaría que Uds ayudemos con su inglés, también?

A tiempo, I believe that the majority of people regularly taking part in the threads, on Spanish Dict, such as Picture of the Day and Word of the Day and other games would greatly appreciate receiving corrections from native Spanish speakers provided that you all continue to make the corrections sensitively (that is to say, in a respectful manner) and sometimes give us encouragement when we have written Spanish sentences well! (ie: with few mistakes)

We know that some (male and female) natives contribute a lot to this community/ give a lot of help to others here, for example: Cordobesa, Daniela, Julian, Leumas, Luis, y Txusta boy y a tiempo _de _ es y Chileno. ...etc...

All of you Spanish-Speaking natives, would you also like us to help you with your English?

Corrijan mi español, por favor

And tiempo_de_es and Julian are some more. - rac1, Feb 1, 2015

Txustaboy is another one. :) - rac1, Feb 1, 2015

Good on you mate. - ray76, Feb 1, 2015

Thx Rac and Ray :) - FELIZ77, Feb 1, 2015

Thanks Feliz. - ian-hill, Feb 1, 2015

You are very welcome , Ian :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

A mi me gusta mucho que me hagan correcciones cuando escribo en inglés. - LuisCache, Feb 5, 2015

Por supuesto que te yo haga las correcciones a tu inglés, Luis. Saludos :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Aprecio mucho que me hagan correcciones a mi español, también - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 6

Wow! no sabía que las cosas estaban así por aquí. Me pregunto que implicaría ser un corrector "oficial".

I think official correctors are a bit like healers in online games: well-liked and respected but also the first ones to get the blame if things go wrong. *hides* :) - Manity, Feb 5, 2015

jaja yo estuve bastante tiempo acá con otro usuario y sì, pasa de todo! - Pablo064, Feb 5, 2015

We appreciate any corrections you give, leumas. I don't believe Anyone blames the person correcting if "things go wrong". - rac1, Feb 5, 2015

Oh, definitely, Rac. I meant that healers get the blame when things go wrong and as an analogy correctors might feel unappreciated when people challenge the corrections on a "porque sí" principle. - Manity, Feb 5, 2015

You are right, Manity. Thank you....:) - rac1, Feb 5, 2015

Ok, thanks for the explanation @Manity . I hope to have the time to help you guys as much as I could. - leumas11, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 7

Lo he dicho antes y voy a reptirlo: Creo que SD debería pagar a un experto hispanohablante porque se necesita mucho tiempo , dedicación y una rara paciencia para hacerlo bien. Quiero agradecer a todos los expertos por su ayuda maravillosa y tenemos a Txtaboy, Tiempo, Cordobesa), Daniela, Leumas y Julian. ¡Muchas gracias!

I have said it before but I will repeat it: I think SD ought to pay a Spanish corrector, because it takes such a lot of time, effort and a lot of patience to to the job regularily, and do it well. I want to thank those experts that still help with corrections , and we're lucky enough to have Txtaboy, Tiempo, Cordobesa , Leumas, Daniela and Julian. Thank you very much indeed!

I think many of us would pay a small fee. It would be different from just paying to take a 'course', this is a private thing where you can improve at your leisure and test your own progress by making sentences as hard or as easy as you like, no pressure. - annierats, Feb 5, 2015

You're welcome @Annie. A mí no me molestaría ayudarles a corregir sus errores, el único problema es el tiempo. No se puede estar aquí todo el día por más que quieras hacerlo. - leumas11, Feb 5, 2015

Por cierto, ayer solicité una corrección para una traducción que hice y todos brillaron por su ausencia. :-( - leumas11, Feb 5, 2015

When I first joined Spanishdict I couldn't believe that some of the major contributors (both Spanish and English speakers) weren't being paid. So much time and effort goes into helping and running a forum such as this. I don't expect, but I certainly - billygoat, Feb 6, 2015

appreciate, every single correction and helpful post. - billygoat, Feb 6, 2015

Answer 8

A tiempo_de_es (y otros a quienes se pertenece):

Señor,

A mí las correcciones de hablantes de español son muy bienvenidas sin duda alguna. Las correcciones de los que (¿quienes, cuales?) están aprendiendo como yo necesitan más investigación. Nadie me enoja si esté tratando de ayudar.

Si piensa que estuviera yo enojado de sus correcciones, deseo decir sinceramente que lo siento mucho y lo pido disculpas a alguna rudeza aparente de mi parte en commentarios que hice.

Espero que continue corregir acá porque su opinión y pericia me valen mucho.

Mejores deseos,

Jubilado

Por favor, corrija mis errores aquí si hay.

it is fine, you don't need to apologize, I understood your point, my comment was not addressed to you or to someone in particular - Pablo064, Jan 31, 2015

Thank you. I am relieved to know that and I am grateful for your participation. - Jubilado, Jan 31, 2015

I second this and @tiempo: my apologies as well for being too proud and biased. If you felt the way you did, an apology is due even if you didn't mean anyone in particular. Apologies and thank you. :-) - Manity, Feb 2, 2015

Answer 9

¡Bien dicho, Annie! ¡El único problema que puedo percibir en el futuro es que si los gerentes de SpanishDict emplearan y pagaran un nativo/a para hacer las correcciones en los hilos, es probable que tendrían que introducir una cuota de socio y como consecuencia no estaría gratis nada más para participar en este foro!

¿No crees que sería una pena (lástima) si la mayoría de la gente no pudiera seguir aprendiendo español aquí .. porque la mayoría de la gente no podría pagar el cuoto?

Uno de las ventajas más importantes de SpanishDict es que puedes siguir participando en este foro, gratis...y que puedemos ofrecer la ayuda a los nativos hispanohablantes en cambio por recibir ayuda consu inglés ¿es justo ...no!

Sería muy útil si todos los hispanohablantes que particapen aquí podrían indicar en sus perfiles si le gustarían recibir la ayuda con su inglés ...o no; porque si no queremos molestarte si no estás interesado en recibir ayuda con tu inglés.

Well said, Annie! The only problem I can discern in the future is that if the SpanishDict managers employed and paid a native to do the corrections on the threads, it's likely that they would have to introduce a membership fee (to cover the cost, and as a consequence, it would no longer be free (it would not be free any more) to participate on this forum!

Don't you think it would be a shame (pity) if the majority of people coulddn't continue learning Spanish here because most of the peole couldn't afford to pay the membership fee?!

One of the most important (greatest) advantages of SpanishDict is that you can continue participating in this forum free of charge, and that we can offer to help the Spanish natives with their English...that's fair isn't it?!

It would be very be helpful if the Spanish-speaking natives who participate here could indicate in their profiles whether they would like to receive help with their English or not, because we do not wish to trouble any of you if you are no interested in recieving help with your English.

The thing is, we are a language learning site, so English as well as Spanish needs to be corrected. :) - rac1, Feb 5, 2015

I totally understand and agree with you, Rac I am just saying that we cannot force people to receive help with either language if they do not wish to receive it but it would beg the question why do they want to be here ..unless they simply want to help? - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Those people who are more advanced Spanish speakers than myself like Kiwi and Jubilado still offer corrections to my posts and other intermediate speakers like Annierats are also welcome to leave comments and suggestions/corrections if they think I am wro - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

I think your idea of indicating in a willingness for corrections in the profile is a good idea for everyone, so I have updated mine, although my usual attitude is that if you don't want to be corrected you should not post on a learning site. - bosquederoble, Feb 5, 2015

Bosque , Yes I am inclined to agree with you but it may be that some people will join us, or are already here who would object to being corrected, at least, would be offended/upset if not corrected by a native speaker because they think that the rest - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

of us are not sufficiently competent to offer corrections - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Feliz, I would be prepared to pay a small amount , if I knew the sentences would always be corrected, wouldn't you? Because I can't be the only one who dowsn't want to do a whole course, or who studies in a manner that suits themselves? - annierats, Feb 5, 2015

Answer 10

Creo que la gran mayoría de hablantes de español expertos están aquí para aprender a hablar en inglés.. por eso quizá no pueden decir si la traducción está hecho bien o no.. Por supuesto, podrían corregir la gramática española, si sí entienden la frase como es.. Quizá por no saber si podrían corregir todos los errores, no se atreven a intentar con ninguno.. :/ Es mala cosa.. ¿Podríamos hacer un acuerdo con ellos quizá?

el gran problema en esta pagina es que la gente se enoja cuando haces correcciones, sea por orgullo, por vergüenza las correcciones no son bienvenidas.. - Pablo064, Jan 31, 2015

I would like to help as much as I can but I can't spend all my day reading every thread. - leumas11, Jan 31, 2015

We the English speakers are asking for them - no excuses acceptable. - ian-hill, Jan 31, 2015

Hola Tiempo. He hecho bastantes correcciones en este sitio, y siempre han sido bien recibidas y agradecidas. - Cordobesa, Jan 31, 2015

Yes amiga and very grateful we are too. xx - ian-hill, Jan 31, 2015

Cordobesa me salieron al cruce muchas veces por eso me canse y cambie de cuen y fue una de las razone porla que nunca quise ser corrector oficial, aunque tenes razon muchos son amables bosquederoble por ej unas de los user por la cual sigo en esta pag - Pablo064, Jan 31, 2015

Cordobesa, saying thank you is too weak for all that you have done for us . To the rest I say please help us if you can ,@ leumas I know how you feel , we mods spend every day reading every thread every comment , but has to be done to keep SD alive - ray76, Feb 1, 2015

Gracias, Ray. :) Tiempo: Siento que hayas tenido malas experiencias por aquí. Pero como dices, la mayoría de la usuarios de SD son muy amables. A veces, solo se trata de malentendidos. Por ejemplo, cuando llegué a esta web, corregí una frase... - Cordobesa, Feb 1, 2015

…de un forero… Me dijo que por qué estaba suplantando al corrector oficial del hilo. Él no sabía que el corrector oficial estaba de vacaciones, y que me había pedido que yo hiciera las correcciones mientras él estaba fuera. Así que... - Cordobesa, Feb 1, 2015

...aclaramos el malentendido, y ahora ese forero, que ya no participa en SD, y su familia nos conocemos en persona y somos muy buenos amigos... :) - Cordobesa, Feb 1, 2015

Yo tb solamente he tenido experiencias buenas o neutrales (es decir, normalmente dice la gente 'gracias' o nada.) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Feb 1, 2015

no me afecta para nada las malas contestaciones o que ignoren tu corrección por completo, pero llegue a un punto en el que me puse a pensar que estaba haciendo acà y por que estoy perdiendo mi tiempo a cambio de nada - Pablo064, Feb 1, 2015

hacia las correcciones en todo los threads todos los días y no me molestaba pero hay usuarios que son desgastantes que realmente no se si estan aca para aprender o como vidriera para mostrar sus avanzados conocimietos y guarda con que alguien intent.. - Pablo064, Feb 1, 2015

ente corregirlos, realmente no me molestaria hacer las correcciones de nuevo porque como dijo billygoat están consolidando sus errores y es algo injusto tambien - Pablo064, Feb 1, 2015

Answer 11

Lamentablemente tenemos una grave falta de hablantes expertos de español que quieran corregir nuestro español en los hilos de la palabra del día y la imagen del día.

Answer 12

Hola, amigos de la comunidad de SpanishDict:

Me gustaría decirles que no se sientan desanimados. Leo regularmente sus contribuciones en el hilo del día o los juegos y quiero felicitarlos por su esfuerzo y sus ganas de aprender español.

Regularmente todos cometen errores, como cualquier persona que está aprendiendo un idioma, pero la mayoría de las veces son pequeños errores, como por ejemplo falta de concordancia de género entre el sustantivo y el adjetivo.

Muy a menudo también se corrigen entre ustedes y generalmente lo hacen bastante bien.

A mí me gusta mucho que me hagan correcciones, y en la medida de lo posible trato de ser amable cuando les hago alguna observación, pero también procuro no intervenir demasiado para no parecer grosero.

Hi, everyone from SD community

First of all, I would like to encourage you to not to feel disappointed. I read your contributions to the threads or the game of the day regularly, and I really want to congratulate you for your effort and good willing to learn Spanish.

Of course all of you commit some grammar mistakes, as everyone who is learning a second language does, but more often than not, those are minor mistakes, such as a discordance of genre between a noun and an adjective.

But normally you find the right sentence yourselves, and usually you are right.

I like to be corrected myself when I write in English and I really appreciate your suggestions and corrections. And when I make some corrections I try not to be rude, and I try not to make much corrections because I don’t want to be misunderstood and be taken as arrogant.

Have a nice day!

Very good post, Luis ! :) I'm just going to offer you a few suggestions for correction / a few corrections - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

1 "for your effort and willingness" or for your effort and desire (ganas) to learn Spanish - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

2 I try not to make 'many' corrections ( we don't say much correcctions) I hope this helps, Luis :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

last one: 3. be considered / thought of as arrogant :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

2. Muchas gracias, Feliz. Me cuesta mucho trabajo distinguir entre "many" y "much", porque en español siempre decimos "mucho". - LuisCache, Feb 6, 2015

3. Excelente: thought of as arrogant, that is a new one for me! Thanks a lot, Feliz! - LuisCache, Feb 6, 2015

Answer 13

I think I have stated clearly my position on that one. Right? Please let me know if that is not the case. I'll pour my mind out...

;-D

Answer 14

To all the native speakers who already help out here on Spanish Dict: :

A (para?) todos los hispanohablantes que siguen dar la ayuda aquí en SpanishDict

Please read: / Por favor, lean:

We really appreciate all that all of you already do to keep this forum running smoothly ...we non natives could not do it without your help!

¡Apreciamos mucho todo lo que todos Uds siguen hacer para mantener este forum para (o así?) que funciona sin problemas....todos nosotros que no son nativos no podríamos hacerlo sin su ayuda!

We certainly do not want any of you to feel guilty for not doing enough or to feel put upon / pressured to do more against you will!

¡Por supuesto que no queramos que sientan culpable por no dan suficientamente la ayuda o que sientan presionado a participar con más frecuencia contra su voluntad!

However, if any of you would like to help out with correcting any of the regular threads such as Picture fo the Day or Word of the Day as and whenever you can spare the time I am sure this would be very much appreciated by everyone here!

Sin embargo, si alguien le gustaría echar una mano con hacer las correcciones en uno de los hilos a diario tales como: La foto del día o la palabra del día siempre que tengan tiempo, ¡estoy seguro que todo le mundo aquí lo apreciaría mucho!

Thank you so very much for all that all of you do

¡Muchísimas gracias por todo lo que todos ustedes hacen aquí!

Corrijan mi español, por favor (si quieres y tienes tiempo )

I always appreciate corrections to my Spanish which is why I usually write: Corrijan mi español, por favor :) below my posts even if sometimes they do not need correction lol - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Hear hear! :) - ian-hill, Feb 5, 2015

Absolutely! Thank you, Feliz. :) - rac1, Feb 5, 2015

Bien dicho. - annierats, Feb 5, 2015

No hay de que , amigos :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015

Muchas gracias, Annie :) - FELIZ77, Feb 5, 2015