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In an article on the use of the subjunctive in Spanish, I came across the following examples of wishing someone something, or that something may happen:

¡Qué tengas un buen día!, ¡Qué lo pases bien!, ¡Qué aproveche!, ¡Qué te vayas!

Am I correct in believing that there should NOT be an accent on the 'Que' word? (Because 'que' here means 'that' not 'what?'. E.g. '[I hope] that you have a good day!'

Cheers, Alanka

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updated Feb 14, 2015
edited by Alanka
posted by Alanka
The article is correct. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014

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Being the worst student on the planet and disregarding the rules a good part of the time, My lovely wife, a native speaker reminds me of "Que and Qué" in this way:

She says it is simple--an interrogation or a REAL exclamation ( surprise-amazement- anger) it has a tilde.otherwise no.

Example:

Que tengas un buen dia, a short version of "deseo que tengas un buen dia" skips the deseo and you see that it is not a true exclamation, and the que works only as a conjunction to link the wish to the rest of the phrase.

Also que uses a tilde when it substutes the item in question, example:

No sé qué quieres.

Otra:

Dime con qué limpiaste el piso.

Otra:

No tiene qué comer

updated Feb 14, 2015
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
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You're right, well observed. When you say ¡Que tengas un buen día!, you're indeed "leaving out" something like 'Espero' or 'Deseo' at the beginning, so 'que' is really what I like to call a 'sticky word' , that pastes two clauses together, like in 'el dinero que te presté'.

So, if you know your grammar well enough, this rule is perfect for you: 'relative pronoun = que, any other function = qué) If not, keep reading. smile

'Qué' (to the best of my knowledge) only wears an accent in interrogative sentences "¿Qué es eso?" & exclamations of the type: "¡Ay, qué calor!" & (I think!) in sentences in which in English you'd stress the 'what' and wouldn't ever use 'that' instead, as if you're making it an independant reference. For example: "No sé qué estaba pensando." - "I don't know what I was thinking."

updated Feb 14, 2015
edited by Suzanne_Romijnders
posted by Suzanne_Romijnders
The example phrases are exclamations. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014
I meant of the type "What (a) *evaluation of a characteristic of the thing commented on* f.e. ¡Qué día tan bueno! ¡Qué rica( está esta comida)! ¡Uf, qué calor! They are expressions of excitement, surprise etc. about the speaker's opinion or a fact. - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 17, 2014
OP's exclamations are of a different type: they are all wishes for the person he talks to: (I hope) that you'll have a good day! This is what you'd typically use the imperative for in English: Have a good day! - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 17, 2014
My theory is that the interrogative 'Qué' is used in expressions such as "¡Qué día tan bueno!" or "¡Uf, qué calor!" or "¡Qué chica tan bonita!" because they all imply a question. "What a nice day! [isn't it?]" or "My, how hot it is! [no?]" - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
or "What a pretty girl! [isn't she?]". This form used to be heard in 'posh' English: "Demned fine horse! [eh what?]", "Jolly good bottle of vino! [what what?]. - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
Expressions using the subjunctive following 'que', however, do not usually imply a question, so 'que' is not accented. - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
That's an interesting theory! I'll ask my Spanish linguïstics & grammar teacher what he thinks of it. I'm getting pretty curious now. X)) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 19, 2014
I like your approach, Suzy! Even if my theory's wrong, it's still a good way to remember which 'que' to use! - Alanka, Nov 19, 2014
Hey there Alanka. I asked my teacher about your theory and he said it's very unlikely, as it'd imply a historical development (which are most common in spoken language, but in this case the accent doesn't make for any distinction in pronunciation) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 19, 2014
Rather, when people started putting a tilde over 'que', it was a decision made by the higher-ups to distinguish between the seperate syntactic (= grammatical) functions that 'que' can assume in written language. - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 19, 2014
Sorry about your theory, I liked it. :) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 19, 2014
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I don't think it has an accent, but let's wait for the Spanish natives to answer.

updated Nov 18, 2014
posted by sanlee
There was an issue about dropping the tilde a while ago - i will have to go check it - pacofinkler, Nov 17, 2014
Tienes razón, Sanlee, "que" no lleva tilde en este caso. :) - Cordobesa, Nov 17, 2014
Yes, Cordobesa from Spain is a native speaker. Que does ot have an accent in these cases. - sanlee, Nov 17, 2014
I have a houseful of 'other' native speakers that disagree. If it's truly an exclamation then it carries the accent. I'll just leave it at that. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 18, 2014
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I asked my Spanish linguïstics & grammar teacher (at a Dutch university) about this issue and he gave me a 1 sentence answer. Apparently it's a lot easier than we'd all been thinking! :D

When 'que' is used as a relative pronoun, it does not wear an accent; in ALL other cases it does.

(see my earlier answer, when I referred to relative pronouns as 'sticky words' X) )

You may find this article helpful: Relative pronouns in Spanish (wiki)

So to answer OP's question: You're right, because those 'que's' are secretly still relative pronouns. smile

updated Feb 14, 2015
edited by Suzanne_Romijnders
posted by Suzanne_Romijnders
Speaking as the OP, I think you're great! xx - Alanka, Feb 13, 2015
Aww, thank you! :D - Suzanne_Romijnders, Feb 14, 2015
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En este caso las frases caen en la categoría de exclamación al igual que las interrogación. De la misma manera, cuando una pregunta comienza con por qué? La palabra 'que' lleva el acento.

These phrases fall in the category of exclamation the same as interrogation. The same way when you begin a question with "por qué?" The word "que" carries an accent.

updated Nov 17, 2014
edited by Jack-OBrien
posted by Jack-OBrien
No todos los "que" entre signos de exclamación llevan tilde, y "Que tengas un buen día" es un ejemplo de esto. :) - Cordobesa, Nov 17, 2014
So far Cordobesa is (apparently) the only native Spaniard to reply, and appears to be supporting my view! Cheers, Alanka - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
You're wrong. Cuando digo ¡Qué tengas un buen día, es una expresión de exclamación y lleva la tilde, punto. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014
Cuando digo Que tengas un buen día, la palabra 'que' es una conjunción y no lleva la tilde y tampoco no es una frase de exclamación. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014
Is that a grammatical rule then, that in all 'que' phrases within exclamation marks the 'que' must carry an accent? - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
Looking at the discussion at http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/106270/que-or-que-with-a-tilde, makes me doubt that this is a rule. It seems you can have the "imperative que" without the accent but yet within exclamation marks. - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
I've just noticed that SpanishDict itself (no less) uses the following slogan: ¡Esperamos que disfrutes de SpanishDict! Here is an accent-less 'que' introducing the subjunctive within exclamation marks. - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
Alanka, I'm not a grammar expert, in any language!! And i don't *do* rules, nearly all of them have exceptions, so there's another broken rule - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014
However, in your example, just the mere fact of using the word 'Esperar', that sentence is NOT an exclamation, "que" is used as a conjunction. - Jack-OBrien, Nov 17, 2014
Good point Jack. Is it possible that in the 'subjunctive' phrases I quoted initially, the 'que' is indeed a conjunction as you say, but with the first word 'implied' (se SuzyStudiesSpanish above)? But the overall tone of the phrase IS an exclamation. - Alanka, Nov 17, 2014
Muy bien usado lo de "punto", jeje. Volviendo al "que" sin tilde, entonces supongo que la RAE también se equivoca... Punto 2.9, apartado c: http://lema.rae.es/dpd/srv/search?id=2VAvJgr6tD6bMa8swW - Cordobesa, Nov 17, 2014