Some words / phrases

Question

I wonder what in spanish, the easiest/simpliest way to use/say: - 'Among others' (entre otros?) - 'The same' (e.g Mary christmas and answer is 'the same') - 'It's about respect' or 'its about respect for each other'. - I also need some examples to diferentiate 'ese' and 'eso'.

Welcome to SD - You can put "ese" and "eso", and other words, into the translator above. - ian-hill, Nov 16, 2014

Answer 1

Thx again!

I see that my text came after the long respons from SuzyStudiesSpanish.

Now i have put all your information together and im very sure that i got the points now

Thanx a lot.

That's good to hear. :D - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 17, 2014

Answer 2

Entre otros is correct, make sure to make it entre otrAs if all other are female.

I think the most common response to something like 'Encantado' or 'Feliz Navidad.' would be 'Igualmente'. (it's MERRY Christmas, btw )

I'm not sure about the respect-one, but I'd say something like : 'Lo importante es el respeto / respetar (el uno al otro?) or 'Se trata de respeto' <-- someone correct me if this doesn't sound very Spanish

'Eso' (that), like 'esto' (this) and 'aquello' (that over there), is used when the object is unknown, and thus you don't know whether to refer to it with a male, female, singular or plural word. These are some of the very rare cases in which you see something typical of Spanish' ancestor, Latin: the neutral gender.

So, the most typical sentence with 'eso' would be: ¿Qué es eso? - What is that?

It is possible to use the plural of this if you at least know that you're referring to several unknown things: ¿Qué son esos? (psst note the accent on the 'qué', it's always used in interrogation words! :3)

But if you empty a bag of unknown objects unto a Spaniard's table, he might still use the singular form.... to refer to the situation as a whole. You could freely translate that as "What's going on here??"

I'll leave it to your creativity to think of some more examples.

The gendered demonstrative pronouns are neatly set out here

You can leave the accent out as it's a bit old fashioned. The ones like 'esto' are for things nearest to yourself (el hablante), the ones like 'eso' are for things closest to the one spoken to (el oyente) and the ones like 'aquello' are for things far from either.

To illustrate this, say that there were three houses placed in the corners of an equilateral triangle (so all distances between the houses are same as long). If I live in house A, you in B and ian-hill in house C, and I were to call you from my house; to talk about something in my house, I'd use 'esto' and it's variants, about something in yours: 'eso' and such and about something in house C, 'aquello'.

This also works figuratively. If for example in the conversation I can't come up with a word, if I think of it, I might say: ¡Ah, esto! , but if you bring in a suggestion, I should say something like: 'Sí, eso. :D'

On a final note, if someone'd ask you: ¿Cuál de los hombres aquí es tu hermano? and you'd answer 'Ese (or, even worse: eso).' they'd be quite shocked at your rudeness, as it'd sound to them like 'that thing over there.' So make sure never to use the variants of eso alone to refer to people, unless you intend to insult them.

I hope with this information you'll be able to think of some example sentences for yourself. Generally, you can put them in front of almost any noun as long as you make the conjugation (gender + number) match, but you'll make a better impression adding matching adjectives to them and putting them in a sentence which shows that you know when to use which pronoun. I'll give you one example:

Anna: ¡Qué falda tan bonita en la tienda al otro lado de la calle! ¡Maríaaa, AQUELLA tengo que probarme! ¡Antes de que AQUELLA mujer la compre! ... María: Ohh, te queda muy bien ESA falda. Anna: A ver cuánto cuesta ESTA falda. Ay, qué pena... :(

:) - ian-hill, Nov 16, 2014

Answer 3

Thanx for the answer. My problem was to understand the diference. I have seen the ese and eso concerning same things. But now its more clear.

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And then some other things that have nothing to do with ese/eso. I want to know how to say/use these in spanish:

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-'Among others' (entre otros?)

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-'The same to you' (e.g Mary christmas and answer is 'the same to you')

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-'It's about respect' or 'its about respect for each other'.

"Merry Christmas" is "Feliz Navidad." Literally translated, "the same to you" is "lo mismo a tú." Though, responding with the same "Feliz Navidad" would seem to make more sense. - bben15, Nov 16, 2014

"It's about respect" is "se trata del respeto." - bben15, Nov 16, 2014

in 'the same to you', 'you' cannot be 'tú', because 'you' in that sentence is an object (whereas 'tú' is a subject pronoun) so it should be ti, as in A ti te gusta yadayada.. ;) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 17, 2014

I agree that simply responding by repeating the wish is a good answer. :) - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 17, 2014

Answer 4

I don't quite understand what's you're asking on the first part, but I can answer the second part. I need you to explain what you're asking on the first part more clearly.

Ese is a masculine adjective. It is followed by a noun. Ese hombre.

Eso is a neuter pronoun. It replaces the noun. It is used when we can't identify the gender. ¿Qué es eso?

Ese and eso both mean "that."

It's true that 'eso' always replaces the noun, but I believe ese, esa, esos & esas can do so, too. Previously, if this way the case, they wore an accent, but this is now seen as old-fashioned. - Suzanne_Romijnders, Nov 16, 2014