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What did I say? for learners.

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I got into a bit of a tiff with the "Junta Municipal" here over excessive water charges. As it worked out in the end I did receive a substantial credit from them. However, getting them to comply with their own agreement has been quite an excercise. It is now my 3rd trip to the matriz, to actually get them to apply the credit they promised.

After waiting in line a while to see an agent, well I was fuming, but anger gets you nowhere. I expressed calmly that I was very irritated with them.

I said this:

¡Qué van a hacer para bajarme el enojo!

So what did I say to the agent?

As always please advise for typos or other errors.

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updated Aug 2, 2015
edited by pacofinkler
posted by pacofinkler
Would it be "van a hacer" (I know it runs together in the spoken). :) - bosquederoble, Nov 13, 2014
Hi Bosque- well right or not it is what i said! maybe a small ooopps! - pacofinkler, Nov 13, 2014
Well, I am not sure in spoken language it makes a difference- see here: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1499317 - bosquederoble, Nov 13, 2014
To quote: Lo que sucede es que al hablar apenas se oye la "a" ya que se prolonga la "n" de "van" hasta la "a" de "hacer". Al ser la "h" de "hacer" insonora es como si se unieran las dos "a" (Qué van a hacer). - bosquederoble, Nov 13, 2014
So it is very subtle. :) - bosquederoble, Nov 13, 2014
I have this problem with my "native Spanish-speakers" in my class. When there are two "a" sound together, "Sinalefa" kicks in and you hear just one "a" But I make them write the "a" anyhow. - Daniela2041, Nov 14, 2014
I wish icould answer you on that but ihave to research it a bit more to give a good response - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
Seems the "a" is not needed there - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
va a hacer. 3 a sounds together. Remember that the verbs of action almost always need the a preposition. - gringojrf, Nov 15, 2014
Yes Bosque-It is subtle as you indicate- even though i did not say the A - pacofinkler, Nov 15, 2014

7 Answers

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To Bosquederoble and to all; I stand corrected-- The "a" is needed between the verbs,

So;

¡Qué van a hacer para bajarme el enojo!

Is correct-- apologies!!!

updated Nov 18, 2014
posted by pacofinkler
:) - ian-hill, Nov 14, 2014
No need to apologize, when we have a discussion, we all learn from it- it's to everyones benefit. - bosquederoble, Nov 14, 2014
All; It is so very important not to mislead we who are learning- so at times a correction or apology is inorder. - pacofinkler, Nov 15, 2014
Are you mad? Is it an angry expression? - sanlee, Nov 18, 2014
Oh Quite so, but not in an insulting way - pacofinkler, Nov 18, 2014
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What are they/you(pl) going to do to quell my anger?

updated Nov 15, 2014
posted by Winkfish
Sounds good to me....jejejeje - rac1, Nov 13, 2014
Yes Winkfish, to "take down" is right - pacofinkler, Nov 13, 2014
;-) - Winkfish, Nov 13, 2014
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I've no idea what ¡Qué van hacer para bajarme el enojo! means

but it is not a question - it's an imperative! or a long expletive maybe.

What did you mean to say or think you were saying Paco.

How did the agent react?

As an aside; I had a similar problem in Bolivia.

They insisted I had used enough water to fill an Olympic sized pool, and billed me for it.

I didn't even have a swimming pool.

My Spanish was so poor that I had to default to good old Anglo Saxon.

updated Nov 23, 2014
edited by ian-hill
posted by ian-hill
Hola Ian i'll post the literal in a while, How are you? - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
Not bad thanks amigo - nice to see you here on SD. - ian-hill, Nov 14, 2014
Hola Ian! - sanlee, Nov 15, 2014
Hola Sandy xx - ian-hill, Nov 15, 2014
¿Sientes bien, Ian? - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
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I just heard this expression on Skype so I won't give it away.

It's way cool.

Thanks Paco.

updated Nov 23, 2014
posted by sanlee
Hi Sandy, wonderful to see you!! - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
And you too, Paco! - sanlee, Nov 15, 2014
How have you been, Paco? - sanlee, Nov 16, 2014
You seem to be doing well. - sanlee, Nov 18, 2014
Much better sandy -it has been a long road to recovery. - pacofinkler, Nov 18, 2014
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Interesting exercise Paco. I would have said it differently but using your format I would have used ...quitarme el enojo.

This led me to a little research.

In English we would say: quell, lower, get rid of, aliviate, etc. This thus leaves us at least a half dozen alternatives to bajarme. I've done the research and selected an option. Anyone else want to try?

updated Nov 15, 2014
edited by gringojrf
posted by gringojrf
Best icome up with here-from the natives is to " take down"--what say you Gringo? - pacofinkler, Nov 13, 2014
Never argue with the natives. - gringojrf, Nov 13, 2014
Hi Gringo! - sanlee, Nov 15, 2014
Hi Sandy. ¿Cómo estás? - gringojrf, Nov 15, 2014
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I've got to say something on this one. On the phrase-"What are you going to do,ect"---All the good answers are used up.

Here's un Danielismo: "Hey, guy, what you gonna do not make me so mad , huh?"

As to the '¿Qué van a hacer?" part, as I wrote in a comment which will be missed by most here I spoke of the phenomenon of "Sinalefa" No, that's not the name of a girl from Sinaloa, lol (you may smile at this point.)

Sinalefa happens when you have two similar vowel sounds either in the same word or across words. The name of author Miguel Cervantes Saavedra. You don't say Sa -a- vedra, it's Sa-ve-dra. The family name Loor is not Lo-or, its "Lor" In the word "alcol", I used to see it spelled as in English, "alcohol" But as the "h" is silent, so and the Sinalefa kicks in and you hear 'alcol" so I see it written that way all the time

My native Spanish speakers have a hard time with this one, because they will write it just the way it sounds ¿Qué van hacer? Some times they really screw up with "Qué van a ser?" It is a real problem for Spanish speakers who have not had formal training in school. I get them first. It' really hard to get them to break bad habits. The Anglos are much easier.

updated Nov 15, 2014
edited by Daniela2041
posted by Daniela2041
Hi Daniella I am full of bad habits and vices but there is anissue of cacophony. - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
Cacawhatty? I know what your said. I'm just in one of my goofy moods. - Daniela2041, Nov 14, 2014
jejejejeje Daniella! - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
Thanks. :) - bosquederoble, Nov 14, 2014
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Hola a todos;

Here is the literal translation of the phrase:

¡Qué van hacer para bajarme el enojo!

What will you do to "take down" my anger!

Several other words could be used,but to me this one works well enough.

This is Spanish of Mexico.

updated Nov 15, 2014
posted by pacofinkler
The problem I have with that amigo is that in English it as a question - even if it is rhetorical. :) - ian-hill, Nov 14, 2014
Ian could be used as a question, but in this case it is used as a statement, as it is "firmly" stated - pacofinkler, Nov 14, 2014
:) - ian-hill, Nov 14, 2014