Si Clauses translation help

Question

Cómo se dice " If we would have known it was that filthy, we would have made other plans. " en Español?

We are not a translation service, if you make an attempt we can help you, but we cannot just do it for you based on the rules of this site. :) - bosquederoble, Aug 14, 2014

http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/265650/what-do-you-know-about-si-clauses-in-spanish - bosquederoble, Aug 14, 2014

The last thing I wrote in this forum is about SI clauses, I'm sure it helps you a lot - SpanishSkypeorg, Aug 14, 2014

If we H A D known it was filthy ....etc - don't use a modal when it is not needed. - ian-hill, Aug 14, 2014

It will make the translation easier too. - ian-hill, Aug 14, 2014

https://mediagallery.peddie.org/gs/handler/getmedia.ashx?moid=325&dt=2&g=1 - rac1, Aug 14, 2014

Why don't you try to help? Is this not what the site was for? Whoo wants long refernces to other sites? - annierats, Aug 14, 2014

If I had had an answer like this the first time I came on site, that would have been Goodbye SD. - annierats, Aug 14, 2014

Personally, I wouldn't mind a reference to this, or another site if it helped me to learn and answer my question, but that's just me. - rac1, Aug 14, 2014

I remember "Heidi" she would have ripped aprt any member that had the temerity to use the translater before trying it out for themselves , the translater will only teach you finger dexterrity , not spanish. - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

@Ray...I'm glad I wasn't here at that time. Personally I'm not into schadenfreude. - 007c5fc1, Aug 15, 2014

.....any member that had the temerity to use the translater before trying it out for themselves , the translater will only teach you finger dexterrity , not spanish. - ray76 I cannot believe you said this. Its like saying dictionaries are useless. - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

@ Gringo mate maaaate, a dictionary is a world away from a translator , dictionaries provide the tools in which you need in order to learn, translaters do not teach you , where ,why, or how you went wrong , or whether you did or not . They have their use - ray76, Aug 16, 2014

- uses , but are a limiting resource for beginners , at our stage they can be invaluable , do not confuse oranges with apples mate . - ray76, Aug 16, 2014

Well said Ray :) - ian-hill, Aug 16, 2014

Answer 1

Si hubieramos sabido que fuera tan sucio, habríamos planeado algo diferente.

Sorry, I'm working out of my own head, not the translator, so it is possibly up the wall, but my connection doesn't hold out for Google sessions. And anyway, what's wrong with answering questions these days? I have noted that we hardly get any, any more... There was a time when the site was full of interesting things to translate or to answer, why are we just sending them to the automatic translator?

You are so right annie...a vote for wisdom. - 007c5fc1, Aug 14, 2014

That 'pat' answr of "use the translator" does not promote any interest whatsoever and it doesn't make sence to drive people away...especially from a website that isn't working properly in the first place. I'm stepping off the soapbox nox. - 007c5fc1, Aug 14, 2014

Nothing stopping A N Y O N E from posting interesting question , go girls go! - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

Thanks for the comments, I would like to know is the sentence is ok.... - annierats, Aug 15, 2014

I agree with your comment about the lack of questions. So I did a little research. During the past 24 hours there have been only 9 new questions. And in the 24 hours prior to that only 19 new questions. I did not count responses as that is much harder - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

So what is your point, Gringo? - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

rac1 I will send you a PM. - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

G'day Gringo old mate , the message is - 'G O F O R I T ' . I have been throwing questions out like a man with no arms , but the response has been so pathetic that I feel, why bother ! - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

If a few more members posted interesting threads SD would be much more interesting. - ian-hill, Aug 16, 2014

Answer 2

And anyway, what's wrong with answering questions these days? I have noted that we hardly get any, any more... There was a time when the site was full of interesting things to translate or to answer, why are we just sending them to the automatic translator?

I think the site asks that we not because the concern is that some are from students with no motivation looking for easy answers for their homework, and that offends some of the members that are professional educators.

Personally I don’t mind doing someone’s homework for them- if they don't learn anything it's their own loss- but I try to stay within the rules of the site. I had an answer prepared already, that I would have provided had they even went to the translator and brought it back here and asked “is this right?”

Mine was this:

Si hubiéramos sabido que estaba tan sucio, habríamos hecho otros planes.

But yours looks good to me.

Anyway, I am willing to do whatever is the expected behavior, but my understanding was that we were not to do this. Unless the moderators come by and say otherwise.

Hi bosquederoble...I just think that we should have a standard practice for all questions. That would be the fair way to do it but look at the question that asked "how do you moan in spanish'...everyone just answered. I tried to make a joke about trying - 007c5fc1, Aug 14, 2014

trying to do it himself...I meant Hazlo...gime para mí. I wasn't really asking him to try the translation. But, why was he not asked? Was it because the question was about sex and not homework? I think we all need to be on the same page. - 007c5fc1, Aug 14, 2014

To me, it would make the site more interesting if we didn't tell everyone to use the translator. You are right about rules, but they should be standard for everyone. - 007c5fc1, Aug 14, 2014

Yes, I guess we do tend to answer things when we say there is no way that could be homework. The problem is here we do not know if it is homework or if he is trying to register a complaint with the hotel he went to. - bosquederoble, Aug 14, 2014

Why not just go to school for them too? We are a learning site, not a place to have answers given for your homework questions because you don't want to study. - rac1, Aug 14, 2014

Ok I have to pitch in here. Isn't coming here and typing a question almost the same as asking a friend or parent or even opening a book? Some level of effort is required. I personally think the rule is too harsh. This forum is all but dead .... - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

...in comparison to the past. If we are a learning site isn't asking questions a valid way to learn? - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

All we are asking is for their best effort- it gets them thinking so they get more out of our answer- and it helps clarify what their deficit is. We answer general questions- it is only when they say write this for me or fill in the blanks for me that.. - bosquederoble, Aug 15, 2014

we demand a little more work on their part. And if they grab it from the translator we still fix it. I think only once was a fill in the blank effort so bad (multiple choice) that it was worse than random chance that I just refused to fix it. - bosquederoble, Aug 15, 2014

If someone posts something for homework that is their writing, I have seen a few complain, but I think mostly we fix it. We don't refuse to help, we just require some modicum of effort. And as Margherite notes, if it clearly is not homework, we answer. - bosquederoble, Aug 15, 2014

When your child asks for homework help, do you help them or do you just give them the answer? If your child gives you their homework and asks you to fill in the blanks, do you just fill in the blanks? - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

Children today are growing up in a different world than I did. If I needed an answer I looked in a book. Today they look on the internet. So where my parents said go look it up, today's parents say the same but now they look on the internet. - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

If there are things you would like to see change about the site, why not contact the administrators with your concerns and suggestions? - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

They have to find SpanDict. They have to sign up. They have to form a question. Studying and learning take many forms. Enough said. I follow the rule but I disagree with it. - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

That doesn't mean parents or teachers should just go ahead and give them the answers because someone else will. Even if someone else does, shouldn't a parent still try to teach the child the value of learning? - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

It is more than ' doing their homework for them' it is being used by them for just that one reason and then they are gone. But if we can persuade them to commit , to follow a few well intended rules , then we may have won a great member for the future of - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

- SD and also helped a studen to be more disciplined , and to follow a well structured path to learning , if i sound like an old fashioned idealist , then so be it. - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

Me too mate :) - ian-hill, Aug 15, 2014

Too many idealists and not enough pragmatists. jmo. Perhaps there are so many one time visitors because the welcome is anything but welcoming. - gringojrf, Aug 15, 2014

Most of these people you are referring to, don't stay, not because they aren't welcomed, but because they were only here to get an answer for their homework. If they really come here to learn, they don't leave over pettiness. - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

The first thing I say to a new person is welcome. - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

Marg about "how do you moan in Spanish" I answered that question because the translator was translating it badly in this case also makes it wrong but I didn't see the question - 003e54f5, Aug 16, 2014

Answer 3

To avoid any more confusion, I am posting a copy of the "Rules" that we are to follow and promote here at SpanishDict. These Rules have not changed. The only reason a member might ask someone to use a translator is because they are probably trying to get the OP to take part in answering his/her own question. This is, after all, a learning site.

As for the moderators, we have promised to follow these rules and guidelines and to help others to do the same.

I have also included a copy of the SD guidelines for your convenience.

Rules

Posting Guidelines

Oh, I forgot it was not a moderator decision, it is a decision by the site owners. Since they run a site whose mission is education, I don't they would want anything that subverts that . - bosquederoble, Aug 15, 2014

I think it far more polite to explain to someone what they need to do to allow us to answer than to simply leave them without an answer and wondering why. - bosquederoble, Aug 15, 2014

Yes, and that is a good thing. Even though I would, not every new member reads the rules, but that is why the guidelines are posted for them to see when they go to ask a question. - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

Vote for you amiga. :) - ian-hill, Aug 15, 2014

Answer 4

I think this is better English.

Had we known it was so dirty, we would have planned something different.

Si hubiéramos sabido que era tan sucia, nos hubiera planeado algo diferente.

The Spanish I am not completely sure about.

Answer 5

If you enter: " If we would have known it was that filthy, we would have made other plans " you might receive a bad translation. It should be: If we had known .......

Hmm, I can almost cobble together what I wrote (but didn't post due to the rules), except I put "estaba sucio", and the machines all use "era". - bosquederoble, Aug 14, 2014

Answer 6

After reading all of the comments writ large here I am reminded of the words

of another teacher.

Let those that are free from sin throw the first stone.

Instead of 'carping' continually about what is the right or wrong way ,

just roll up your sleeves , get into the kitchen and start cooking.

If for no other reason than that the full time cooks need a helping hand

We have a saying down here ,-

Those that are always poking mullock at others end up smelling of it

Hola amigo - ian-hill, Aug 16, 2014

G'day mate Trouble aT'Mill ! - ray76, Aug 16, 2014

Answer 7

Welcome to SpanishDict. Please complete your profile information. Please and thank you go a long way.

Exactly Annie , I am heartily sick and tired of 'ill mannered the world owes me a living types' . - ray76, Aug 15, 2014

I agree with please and thank you. I disagree with asking for a person's sexual identity. I don't see as that has anything to do with learning. - 007c5fc1, Aug 15, 2014

It does when the language is Spanish and not English amiga :) - ian-hill, Aug 15, 2014

I have never asked anyone for their sexual identity, but I can see Ian's point because of the gender factor in Spanish. - rac1, Aug 15, 2014

@ margherite , if that is so why use an avatar , why not use your real identity - " Fred Dagg" ? - ray76, Aug 16, 2014

Answer 8

Try typing your sentence (with Julian's correction) into the translator. You get three pretty good results.