Pronoun order revisited

Question

I am going to count this as a separate question, as I am going to completely reformulate it, even though it is going after the same underlying idea as the last question I asked.

In English, "You gave me to Juan" or "I gave you to Juan" are perfectly grammatical sentences. Even though presumably nowadays one person can't give another to a third.

My question is would you say those sentences in Spanish as (Multiple choice here, but if more than one are correct, pick more than one):

1- Le me diste a Juan y Le te di a Juan. (RID order, like Se lo diste a Juan= You gave it to Juan)

2- Me le diste a Juan y te le di a Juan. (Setemelelo order- or whatever you want to call it)

3- Le diste a mí a Juan y le di a ti a Juan. (avoids having to choose an order; I am leaning to this right now)

4- Other formulation of your choice.

5-They are silly sentences trying to explore an unimportant grammatical point and I should give it up.

Answer 1

In my mind only #1 is correct if you are communicating the English sentences given.

In #3 I think, but am not certain, that the personal "a" is only used with the indirect direct object. So this formula doesn't work. But this works if you use the noun for the direct object. For example: Le diste a Sara a Juan. You gave Sara to Juan.

I am not a native speaker. But you helped me so I am trying to help you. Or confuse you more. Who knows.

http://www.studyspanish.com/lessons/persa.htm; "In Spanish, when the direct object is a person, it is preceded by the preposition "a."" - bosquederoble, Jul 18, 2014

So I think it should be "Le diste a Sara a Juan" (if the sentnece is possible?). And that is why I lean to #3. - bosquederoble, Jul 18, 2014

So the "a" in front of Juan is not a personal "a" just a normal one? - gringojrf, Jul 18, 2014

I personally think all objects need a personal "a" (in the absence of another pronoun), but in this case I think the "a" is a required preposition for the recipient of the action of dar. - bosquederoble, Jul 18, 2014

I have to admit I am not sure- I have to think of a sentence giving something to an inanimate object- even "dar de comer a los peces" one could wonder if you are personalizing the fish since you care enough to feed them. - bosquederoble, Jul 18, 2014

Answer 2

OK Bosque...

me diste a Juan = you gave me john

te di a Juan. = I gave you to john

Se lo diste a Juan= You gave it to Juan)

(Me) le diste a Juan = You gave John something...(I don't like that "me" in there, although some people talk like that, to me is wrong)

le di a Juan. = I gave John something.

le di (a mí) a Juan = I gave me to John

le di a ti a Juan. = I gave you to John

You need a conversation with me on Skype...

You are making it more difficult for yourself.